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 Posted 10/25/2018  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much drnsreedhar! I had been able to locate a few that were similar but not with the character circled in the image below. What does that character mean?

And the coins weight is +/- 6 grams which I believe is correct for a 1/2 Rupee? I've also included an image of the coin next to a US nickel for size comparison.





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Once again, Thanks!
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 Posted 10/26/2018  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drnsreedhar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello JDRMCB,
The encircled portion has a design. Such designs are common in the background of many Indian coins.You see them abundantly on Mughal issues. But the legend fixes attribution.
Yours is a half rupee by its weight. Thanks
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10/26/2018 12:17 am
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 Posted 10/26/2018  03:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One last thing if you don't mind. There are several different KM numbers on what appears to be the same coin with subtle differences , dates or Regnal years? Would you happen to know exactly which one this is?



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I apologize for compromising so much of your time. I really don't mind doing my own research, in fact, I rather enjoy it, but I was at my wits end in trying to identify this coin.
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 Posted 10/27/2018  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drnsreedhar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello JDRMCB,
Your coin more or less looks like KM-213, because the part of "simha" is split into two lines as "si mha" as against "sim ha" in KM-205.But the letters "na" and "ha" below inscription are missing. I cannot make a better match with any other image.Thanks
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 Posted 12/01/2018  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drnsreedhar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An addition to the Travancore section of the thread.
This is a coin of Rani Gouri Lekshmi Bai who ruled as a regent from 1810 to 1815.AD for her son, Rama Varma (Swathi Thirunal,1829-1846.AD. She issued a proclamation in 1813.AD to issue copper coins with lotus on one side and Garuda the mythical bird and vehicle of Lord Vishnu on the other side. This was intended for transaction as petty cash in market places. Such coins used to be called "Thirakasu" and are uninscribed coins with images of different devices, birds, animals etc. One pattern used to be replaced with another in three year time. Accordingly, this was withdrawn by another proclamation in 1816.AD

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There are various theories on why these coins are called Thirakasu. One among them is that they are struck in "thiraviyam" that is bronze. Most of them are bronze with varying proportions of Copper. Some of them are copper, but are called thirakasu. I shall post some more examples of thirakasu later. Thanks
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Great write up and a really nice coin sreedhar....
These seem to be quite rare and difficult to find information about?
But I'm probably looking in the wrong places...
What other types of animals-birds were depicted?

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I shall post some more examples of thirakasu later.
I'm looking forward to seeing them...Paul
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 Posted 12/02/2018  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any thoughts on this coin?

It was hard to get good images of it due to its interesting shape and also the coin appears to have been lacquered.


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 Posted 12/02/2018  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a Raja Raja Cholan coin from Ceylon AD 985-1014..Bottom photo is upside down...I collect this series so have a look at this..Paul
http://goccf.com/t/323841
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Dear JDRMCB,
Palouche is correct on the spot in the attribution of the coin. It is of Rajaraja Chola.985-1015.AD.Only difference is that he was an Indian ruler who is regarded the greatest ruler of the Chola Empire. He built the famous Brihadeswara temple in Tanjore. His daughter Kundavai was married to a Chalukya Prince Vimaladitya whose son paved way to Chola-Chalukya power merger later. Rajaraja Chola conquered SriLanka and that makes it the reason why there is close resemblance between his "Ceylon man" coins and the coins of SriLankan rulers. Raja raja Ceylonman coins have been obtained in abundance from many parts of Tamilnadu state in India.
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 Posted 12/03/2018  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW!

You guys never cease to amaze me with your numismatic knowledge! I thought for sure identification was a lost cause on that one. And I had no idea that it was a 1000+ year old coin or if it was even Indian for that matter.
Although my coin is not even close to being as nice as the ones seen in Paul's spectacular collection, it's the only one I have and I've got just the spot for it in my OFEC album!

Thanks guys!


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 Posted 12/04/2018  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drnsreedhar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dear JDRMCB
Your coin has sufficient script to attribute it to Rajaraja.
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You can compare with https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=207578
Thanks
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Most of Thirakasu cannot be attributed to specific rulers for want of sufficient literature. Barbara Mears and Beena Sarasan have done a good deal of study on them. Unfortunately I do not have a copy of Mitchiner's book. Still I am classifying them in tune with Barbara Mears and Beena Sarasan. Any further info if gained will be shared. Thanks.


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A small coin with Lekshmi, Goddess of prosperity on one side and Conch on the other. Conch was the dynastic emblem of the Travancore rulers. Travancore was formally established in 1729.AD. But Thirakasu could have been in prevalence even before that. Most of these are obtained from river beds mostly in the south, and in lower quantities as we move northward. This particular coin is from the river bed of "Thamravarni".
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On this coin , there is a conch (with clockwise twist) on one side and a mythical wheel on the other. Wheel is called "chukram" in Malayalam. Conch is "samghu". Samghu and Chukram are two of the four devices that Vishnu, God of existence wears on his self. (Other two are "Gada"- club- and "Padmam"-lotus).Size is given in mm.Vaishnavite symbols are very common in coins that existed in Travancore.The dynastic crest itself was conch.


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This coin has Conch on one side and Gada on the other. One side is similar to issues of Dharmaraja (1758-98.AD)where Gada and Lotus were on either side.
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Great information Sreedhar, really like the detail of the Gada! ...
These coins in general seem to be quite rare? Or am I looking in the wrong place?..Paul
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