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I have been purchasing many coins on ebay recently through a combination of bidding and Best Offers. I like to think that I have been reasonable in my offers, and the many sellers from whom I have purchased seem to think so as well. Now one seller atgcoins.weebly has blocked me from making any more offers on his coins. I made an admittedly low offer for a ridiculously overpriced coin and then immediately followed with a message saying that I would like to come to an agreement without hitting the 3 offer limit. He came back with a made up grey sheet number (or maybe it was last year's). I then pointed out a bunch of recent auctions many for much rarer varieties of that date, including the very coin he was selling which was sold in March at auction for just over half of his ebay selling price! I was completely cordial and polite. Now he blocked me from making any offers on his coins. Does he just not want to be reminded that he is overpricing his coins, does he not want to hear from me about it, or does he just not like me for hitting back? We are talking about coins in the upper 3 digits which are not likely to be sold at his price any time in the next century. Edited by syeb
07/05/2016 1:26 pm
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Is he being unreasonable? It is his coin and he can do absolutely anything he wants with it. If you want him to be reasonable maybe you should have been reasonable with your low offer?
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Valued Member
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coinsarecool: I thought I was being perfectly reasonable and balanced - asking for a response and counteroffer. It is called opening a negotiation, an opening bid, or whatever you like to call it.
Of course he can do what he wants with his coins. My complaint is him blocking me from offers on any of his items. Almost as if he could not handle the truth.
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You said it yourself that you made a low offer. So how is that "reasonable" on your part? His coins, he can decide who could and could not bid on his coins. He chose not to deal with you in the future - he can do that. I think he can handle the truth maybe he just does not want to deal with this. Enough stress in peoples life, no need to justify to every random guy why he is charging what he is charging.
And thank you for giving me a lesson in negotiating. Your condescending tone is likely the reason he blocked you. Who needs that.
Good day.
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United States
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I'm wondering why you think an unreasonably high list price which is obviously a starting point is any less unreasonable than an unreasonably low bid price, especially when I immediately sent an explanatory message? And guess what, if he doesn't want to deal with best offers he should not list items with Best Offer. If he wants to exclude serious buyers from his pool of customers that is certainly his prerogative but definitely not a good business decision. Or do you just think that buyers should just acquiesce to whatever crazy amount the seller asks. Don't get me wrong I have been on both sides of the aisle but have never blocked anyone, especially someone who is obviously serious but just has a disagreement on price. This type of seller gives ebay coin sellers a bad name. |
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Canada
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Syeb, 2 wrongs never make a right. Drop it and move on with your life.
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The first sentence of your last post is unreasonably complicated.
And guess what, those are his coins and allow me to repeat myself, he can do whatever he wants with them. He can: ask for too much, ask for too little, give them away for free, offer free shipping, charge too much for shipping, he can have his listings in bold or italics, in both English and Spanish, he can ship them via USPS or UPS or Fedex. he can put the coin in a yellow envelope, or maybe brown and maybe even hot pink, as long as it is bubbled of course. He can also say a little prayer before he seals the envelope and another longer prayer when he hands the envelope to the postal worker. I think you get what I am trying to say - these are his coins and his business.
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07/05/2016 2:42 pm
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Your condescending tone is likely the reason he blocked you. Who needs that. Pot. Kettle. Black. YOU started the tone of this topic with the condescension. |
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United States
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Coinsarecool: This conversation is getting long in the tooth and you seem to be ignoring my point. I am not disputing his right to do what he wants with his coins. I am complaining about his blocking one particular buyer for no good reason. That is unfair and should be somewhat of a violation of ebay rules. As another reply said, I will move on with my life. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Great topic. A little more heated than it needs to be....  a seller has a right not to be bothered by offers that are way lower than he is asking. A buyer (or offerer as it stands) has every right to make an offer for whatever price he feels like, but if that price is low enough that it insults/annoys the seller, he may get blocked. ebay has a feature for blocking buyers, so it is a tool in the hands of the seller. In my opinion it is poor etiquette to make lowball offers, as well it is to ask for 400% of FMV. Bottom line is etiquette is not something that can nor should be enforced. |
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United States
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Takes deep breath.......relaxes.......thinks about his coins......  Just to be clear, I have purchased many, many coins using best offer. I have never sent an offer that could be considered lowballing unless I clearly indicated to the seller that I was interested in a negotiation - essentially to ignore my offer price and to contact me to work out a deal. ebay's 3 offer limit inhibits true negotiations so it is more convenient to start this way. Of course my initial offers are below what I would be willing to pay as I would be quite stupid to do it otherwise. But never a lowball offer so as to insult a seller or seem not serious. If this seller wants to lose a customer, so be it. I have moved on from him. The thread can continue as there may be others chiming in though.  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Oh please don't get me started again . I've been told repeatedly that e-bay sellers can say and do whatever they want . And there is nothing we can do about it . Unless he is selling known counterfeits . Forget this guy and move on ,but in the future don't give any e-bay seller a knowingly low offer . that won't get you anywhere .  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Miss Manners says, send a fruit basket.
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@Admin - I am not denying my condescending tone, it was intended. But I am not the one being blocked by a seller. @Syeb - On no I am not ignoring your point (hence my replies to you). You seem to be ignoring a very simple fact that a seller can do whatever he wants as long as he does not go against ebay's policies and in this particular case - he is very kosher. |
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United States
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So we all seem to be in agreement that the seller can do whatever he wants. But I can still complain about being treated this way.  And T-BOP, of course I should start with a low offer. How else would you start a negotiation of any kind? There is a difference between an opening bid (i.e. low offer) and a lowball offer though. Edited by syeb
07/05/2016 3:26 pm
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Canada
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I would rarely ask for more than 20% off the asking price of anything. So if something is that much over-priced I would not even bother. You will never convince someone to drop their price that much. However they came up with the price I am sure that they are entirely convinced that it is fair, whether it is or not.
Find other people to buy from.
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