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 Posted 08/08/2016  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaxenro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Be careful of the 1893-S on ebay many are fakes. Even slabbed I would be cautious about them. Sometimes things are popular because they are popular. Yes there are probably more rare coins that sell for less for that reason they aren't as popular. Yet this is true in many collecting fields. Case brand knives are very collectible and probably will continue to be yet I could never see the attraction.
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 Posted 08/08/2016  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georgescoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is an interesting topic. My Morgan dollar set is in 2 Dansco albums, although I have several slabbed morgans as well. I have shifted my focus onto the $2.50 Indian Set for which I have one coin the 1914 P, but the set is manageable. The hardest coin will be the 1911D of course. Good luck with you're Morgan dollar set.
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 Posted 09/01/2016  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heynow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a collection that is neat and could be a good investment.

Do a 19th and 20th century type set of key coins. For example 1893S Morgan, 1916D dime etc.

You wont have many coins, but you will have a very desirable, valuable and marketable collection. You wont fill up holes with many common coins, but they wont bring you much when you sell anyway. You will have a $125,000 portfolio of coins everyone wants.
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I would personally not begin an omnibus collection of Morgan dollars. That's putting all your coins in one basket, as it were. Given your $125,000 'investment fund', however, I would select from the key dollar and crown coins of the world, including Morgans, Peace, Seated Liberty, Canada, Britain, Europe, etc., etc., and get outstanding examples of as much of it as you could. As long as you enjoy it, it's still collecting. If you wanted to stay with just US coinage, there are lots of 19th-century minors to look at.

I would avoid any 20th-century US coins, and most foreign items post-1950.

The keys may drop a bit in a bubble, but they are key coins and insulated by rarity and desirability from taking the losses that the common coins would suffer.
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 Posted 09/01/2016  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heynow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I would avoid any 20th-century US coins, and most foreign items post-1950.


There are some real good 20th century you coins that should have good investment value. 1916D dime, 1916 quarter, etc.
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 Posted 09/01/2016  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The thing is we are in the American market and certain American coins will always be most sought after coins in USA. What I think is that as soon as you see your coins in investment terms the fun goes out of it and you might as well be buying stock or houses or anything to make a buck. People spend millions on art and antiques as investments or to show off to people to impress them. This is just not fun to me.
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 Posted 09/02/2016  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heynow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is fun, I did a hypothetical, figuring it was cost around $125,000 in MS63. A nice grade, but not a crazy price grade.


It's the best of 20th century (or close to it). No varieties like 3 legged Buffalo. Includes some classic beauties, very desirable, easy to market when you need to.

I have a bit of money tied up in my other stuff, or this would be my list, or something close to it.

1c 1909S VDB
5c 1926S
10c 1916D
25c 1916
50c 1921D
silver $1 1901
$2.50 1911D
$5 1908S
$10 1908S
$20 1907 High Relief

What do you think?
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I'd add 1921 and 1928 $1 as options to go with the 1901, or 1904-S as well.

I don't have $125k to play with though. Otherwise I'd love such a set...
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I'd add 1921 and 1928 $1 as options to go with the 1901, or 1904-S as well.

I don't have $125k to play with though. Otherwise I'd love such a set...


Why the 1921 silver dollar?
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He may mean the Peace dollar 1921 and the 1928 Peace dollar. I might get a 1934-S Peace dollar in MS64. The price more than doubles in MS65 and this coin in high grades is sought after because it is scarce. Get the 1921 Peace dollar in MS65. All the Peace dollars are pretty cheap in MS64 except for the 1934-S. We could go on and on with our favorite coins.
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How about I suggest Seated half dimes?

38-O (semi-key)
44-O (semi-key)
46 (key)
53-O NA (key)
1863-67 P mints (keys)
A few more semi keys and cond. rarities along the way, but they are not TOO expensive

Set aside these 7 key dates and the semi keys and you have yourself a nice historical and actually rare set of US coins that doesn't break the bank.

If you want bigger coins, I would suggest going for the Seated halves. It's a long series in which only the later dates and a few earlier ones are expensive. Usually more common than the Half Dimes, but whatever floats your boat.

No one suggested Seateds, so I thought I would.

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My Morgan collection plan is a date set, except a more high quality date set if you will. All years with CCs will be a CC (1878-1885, 1889-1893). I will look to get at least one MS67, one MS66 PL, and one MS65 DMPL. Most will be mint state, except for certain years.

I'm not going to be too strict on my plan, if I see a coin I like but may not fit my plan, I'm still going to buy it. Have fun with it, like I just said, these coins will be big purchases, so don't buy the first one you see. Be patient, the perfect coin will come.

I like to look out for old holders where the coin obviously exceeds the grade that was given by the TPG, as most of the time they will be cheaper than what the coin is really worth.
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I see a number of 1893-S Morgan dollars available, took less than 2 minutes to find on ebay. There are coins on my wanted list I haven't been able to find available for months or even years.

Edit: Ok, so after a bit more research, looking at NGC's census, there are 15 1893-S Morgans graded au-58, another 27 graded higher. And au-58 is a $60,000 coin? I haven't even looked at what PCGS has graded. IMHO, that's just ridiculous.

I dunno, maybe the nominal value for that coin could go higher, I just don't understand why it would. Pure mania, IMHO. $60,000 for a AU Morgan dollar is just mind boggling. It tells me American coin collectors haven't stepped foot in the foreign coin market. I see many gorgeous foreign coins with less supply, more age, and much more attractive valuations. Again, just my opinion, and I hope my opinion is not found to be offensive, that is certainly not my reason for sharing it.


My thoughts exactly. With the exception of my type set and buying coins to resell, I have abandoned the US coin market. Those prices are being inflated by investors who entered the US coin market because of the advent of the TPGs. It just shows you how money-driven and history-ignorant US coin coin buyers can be.

For $60k, I can buy a nice Ides of March coin, MUCH rarer, MUCH more historically significant, and MUCH more interesting than an AU Morgan dollar.
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I have 15 Morgans left to complete my Date/mint set. They range from the 1881CC to the 1903-S. I am going to try and buy the majority of them in AU if possible. There are quite a few that I will have to get in EF and some 93-S, and 95-S that I will get in any condition I can if they look decent. "Coins" magazine has a list of ten great and sometimes overlooked Morgans in various grades. "Coins" says that 1894 is a bargain in AU condition as is the 1895-O 1886-O, and 1897-O compared to MS grades. I have bought some very nice coins in AU50 and AU55 that look great for a fraction of the price for the same coin in MS63. I showed one of my AU Morgans to LCS owner and he was mighty impressed. I got a 1899 and 1899-S in AU and they look perfect to me. I will post them in their slabs because I bought them off ebay in slabs and I think that is where they will stay for now. Only 330,000 of the 1899 were minted and you can buy one AU for $200 and one in MS63 for just $300. The 1899-S has mintage of 2.5 million and goes for $500 in MS63. I need to read more to find out why mintage seems to not mean all that much with these coins.
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To find true DMPL'S would be a hard task!

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