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Any Ideas On Who I Could Trust With A Modern High Value Coin

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There are lots of credible people here on this site who can help you. I don't know what fears you have though.

If you want, post the pictures here, but first purchase a software which can mask your IP address so no one will know where the post came from. That would probably be the best way to go.

Maybe you can ask the moderators to delete your post after you have gotten the answers which you are looking for.
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 Posted 10/15/2016  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasondbell123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry folks..Im at work right now. I will definitely be posting a picture tomorrow..basically its a PR70 from PCGS of a 2016 ASE. Its obvious on the coin that the rim is a misstrike. I will be posting toorrow
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 Posted 10/16/2016  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What error is PCGS calling it?
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Awesome story, clairhardesty, and great to meet another female collector.

Jason, even if you used your real name as your handle, it's common enough I doubt anyone could track you down. I am also really curious to see your coin and hear what the experts here have to say. And by the way, even if they shoot you down, you're not alone. I'm a new collector and if you look you'll see I've posted more than one "mint error" that wasn't.

Also, even if it is a mint error, it may not really push the value up as much as you think. My first buy was a 1938 d/d Buffalo nickel, graded MS64 by ANACS. I paid $65 because it had beautiful toning that caught my eye. PCGS says that was more than the coin is worth. Someone did pay $3,760 for one graded MS68 at auction, but that appears to be an outlier value, and even that, while a pretty bit of change, won't pay the mortgage for long. I've seen coins posted here that are worth quite a bit more than that, so if some crook wanted to go after someone here to steal their treasure, you'd have to stand in line!

Long story short, lemme see! If someone does say you have a zillion dollar coin, you can hustle it to a safe deposit box long before anybody could find you. Keeping my fingers crossed you have a real winner!
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Wouldn't be the first time PCGS put a coin in the wrong slab. I've got a 1974 Ike in a 1976 slab. As for a misstruck proof...
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So here are the pictures folks. I included both the front and back, and the geotagging is off so I'm good. Quick background, this is my first supposedly perfect proof coin Ive bought yet, although I have bought more expensive coins.

This PR70 ASE I got for about $88 from APMEX.com. Both front and back. The misstrike is on the front of the coin and its looks pretty obvious. Right above the R and there is a double rim that extends down to the sun. Also, past the R there is a slight double rim in the other direction, although the picture doesn't really show it as I didnt tilt the coin and I dont have the best smartphone camera.

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 Posted 10/16/2016  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wizard1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I see what you mean! Very nice coin.

For the error experts, what type of mistrial would cause that without affecting the rest of the coin's design?
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Looking at the coin further, although the picture shows it poorly, there is also a sort of double rim under even the 2016. You can see the knurl right about lady liberty's head.
Im certainly no expert but I have two questions. How could PCGS grade such a coin as PR70 to begin with? And two should I send it back to APMEX and get my money back, or is this possibly really something to have professionally examined.
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Thanks for posting, Jason. Surprised nobody at APMEX caught it either--or maybe they did and didn't think it mattered. Can't wait to see what the experts here say.

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No error expert....slightly Miss-Aligned Die (MAD)?
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I have a carson LED loupe(which are great btw) and the back looks picture perfect. A very very slight discrepancy n the back rim though. I would think grading companies would use professional microscopes when grading a coin to be a perfect 70, whether a proof or not. It just kinda puts me off to coin collecting, as I really started to get interested in it recently
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TPG's use a 7x loupe, no matter what. I'm not an expert, but I have been here to be taught by coop, john, mike, and ken, and also John wexler. This could be something. If you get better pictures of the area in question, we might be able to determine whats up. And don't get your hopes up, because it could be a problem with the holder itself
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Oh, the pictures I took are with my crappy smartphone, not with the loupe. I just use the loupe to examine in more detail, although I'm looking into investing in a professional microscope.

Those two pictures I posted are with a 5 megapixel garden variety smartphone you can buy at Walmart
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So guess what..the last comment made me think a little bit and guess what...its the plastic casing...if you tilt it almost as if your looking at the side of the slab,,you can see that its an imperfection of the casing..I used my engineering brain to remember to question everything..

sorry for getting everyones hopes up.... :(
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