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I wonder if they're using 3d dies. This is really bad, can't totally say for sure on the 1920 here. This is unbelievable. Thought at some point this would happen, here we are.
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As much as can be done visually and with a magnet through plastic, I'm pretty certain this is a silver coin. As is the 1914/?.
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It probably is silver, but am confident it's not genuine. Blob of metal on the 1914 next to leaves, smooshed lettering.
Just compare the pics to other 1914 reverses. It's not right.
There are a bunch of off metal world coin strikes that they've sold. Someone is making some really really good dies.
The one issue I have with the 1920 is strike, the 25 in 25 cents doesn't look sharp the way it should, not detail issues though..
Pokerman seller has a PCGS 1920 up. Compare them. Strike is different
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10/16/2016 2:37 pm
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I think the right thing to do is send them back to ICCS and have them go over both with a fine tooth comb.
I must admit, the 1920 doesn't look that bad.
I've checked the seller from Spain and his other items and even though he uses 'private listing' in his history base (not the most ethical procedure on the planet), most of his other coins look legit.
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With all due respect doubleeagle, those off metal Chinese strikes on copper, the market doesn't even believe it, selling for 20€. Too many errors off metals and inconsistencies in these strikes. The alarming part is, yes, they look real. But also look at his feedback. Ever see an 1888 like this? 311683993696 Look at how close those letters in Victoria are to the denticles. And sending them back to ICCS, what are they supposed to do that can't be done on the board, other than issuing a refund and apology to the op. Outside of the Edward on the obverse of the 1914, can anyone find a 1914 with a reverse struck like that? I don't see one. Also the leaves at the bottom of the 1920 are also soft and don't look right. |
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And more on the 1888 the queens jewel doesn't even touch the bead. Another miraculous mule. Someone can identify the bust if they wish. The coin looks so darned good, but it's all wrong people. To clarify the bottom one is the fake from the seller that sold these coins to the op. 311683993696  Edited by Alan
10/16/2016 3:43 pm
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I didn't buy the 88 and there might be other pointers to assume it being fake but the picture is taken at an angle which could create an illusion. If you take the light reflection away between the V and denticles, the actual space distance appears similar to this coin.  |
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Not to mention you could drive a semi truck full of beads through some of The beads on the coin. And I should also mention the lips and nostril of the queen on the fake. And the back of the hair just above the knot in the ribbon, and on and on.
I will be taking today to reflect on what's unfolding here. This is really bad, and I wish some of the experts could chime in on this obverse, what is it?
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10/16/2016 3:55 pm
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It's a fake. What a cancer.
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So I would say that Paulsz post of the auction would be proof enough that the 14 posted here is fake. The toning is too similar.
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Here's another 1920 from China listed as a 1925?that sold. 322288129892 Note the similarities to the op's 1920? That 1891 even got me. I feel like an idiot. These guys are 3d printing dies IMO. ICCS has some BIG explaining to do. |
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You should file a paypal case and get all your money back OP, also I hate to say it but pour over your inventory ICCS or not.
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