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Picture Updates For 1983 D DDR?

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 Posted 11/01/2016  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The faint line in C looked interesting but otherwise the device sizes look correct. I can't really see the notching but may be due to the fuzzy images. Zoom out a bit. Otherwise it appears as a normal cent.

Good luck on the hunt!
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The issue with the polished die has nothing to do with it being a variety. Even variety dies get polished when event happen that alter the die. (clashes, die dents and ETC) But here is what I'm talking about:
Here is a nickel that the die was so polished away (center image) that the tip of the 'G' is missing and the overall size of the devices are thinner. This is because the field was reduced and part of the wide taper of that letter was reduced, making these letters smaller
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This one is over polished on the bust. So now parts of the face are missing.
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Here is a case where the die edge was polished down unevenly and not the letters look tapered:
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Same thing on this proof die:
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That is why the images of your coins devices looked thinner that the examples I posted. So I still see nothing like hub doubling on your coin. Normal die and the coin has some contact marks on the top of the devices on some letters. Nothing enlarged like the 1983 DDRs.
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I also think what we may be seeing on the middle of the devices(the line down the middle) is whats seen on a lot of earlier zincolns where the middle of the devices cave in/rot away from the underlying zinc for reason unknown at least I havent heard of a good reason yet but ive seen a lot early zincs with this but again these pics arent clear enough to be sure if I'm seeing the same thing but I believe so
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 Posted 11/01/2016  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I also think what we may be seeing on the middle of the devices(the line down the middle) is whats seen on a lot of earlier zincolns where the middle of the devices cave in/rot away from the underlying zinc for reason unknown


This is new to me - thanks for mentioning it. I wonder if anyone has more information about this?
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 Posted 11/01/2016  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You might be right slamn. I wondered the same thing.

Pete - not much more to add but what slamn is describing may be caused initially by very small breaks or maybe thin spots in the plating allowing the hydrozincite to start. Maybe even from a bad bond between the zinc substrate and the copper.
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I think slamn is right. The devices are the normal size, so I kind of ruled out hub doubling a while ago. Now just trying to figure out what this is so we can use it for future knowledge.
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