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1800/79 Large Cent Variety?

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Can anyone id this variety. I think it's an 1800/79 2nd Hair. The die rotation in the 2nd photo is correct. Thanks, Ed



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Looks correct.
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The second 0 looks higher/closer to the bust, could it possibly be a S-196?
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It does look higher. The only listing on the site for images is this one. So you maybe correct. I don't have an image of 196 yet to compare with.
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Thanks. Here's one from the NGC site.

https://www.NGCcoin.com/coin-variet...c-s-196-401/

Will anyone agree that it looks more like the S-196 with the higher 0?
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I kind of agree. But I'm not fully sure. Does it have any markers visible
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S-193 Identifying feature being the die crack or gouge from the right base of the 1 in the numerator horizontally to the right hand ribbon. Obv is the same as on S-192. It isn't 194 or 195 because the position of the highest wave of the hair below the R in LIBERTY is wrong.

This is an early die stage before the normally seen arc crack through the fraction to the left through UN developed. (crack may be fiantly there, not sure.) Early Die Stage II

Here is an image from Dan Homes I that shows both cracks.

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Sorry, but I have to disagree about the S-193. You know a lot more about coins than I do, but in this case I have to defend the second 0 in the date being much higher. The second 0 in the date on the S-193 is basically the same height as the other three numbers.

https://www.NGCcoin.com/coin-variet...c-s-193-398/

https://www.NGCcoin.com/coin-variet...c-s-196-401/
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Can't be 196 for the same reason it isn't 194 or 195 the highest wave of hair is below the left edge of the upright of the R. On 196 it is below the center of the R. The R eliminates 194,5,and 6 but fits 192 and 193 (same obv die) Can't be 192 because the ME in AMERICA aren't joined at the base. The only other possibility would be NC-1 or NC-2 Those have the hair wave further right but not below the center of the R and neither of those shows the 9 strongly in the first 0. I'm sticking with 193.
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I have a little better photo, and it shows up a bit better in hand. Imo, the highest wave of the hair is closer to being under the right edge of the left upright of the R. And if you look at the low point of the hair, on the 196 it splits the feet of the R and the T. On the 193, the low point of the hair is totally under the right foot of the R.

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that is probabblu the coolist over date coin I have ever seen..
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OK with the better pictures I can see the wave is further right than it appeared in the first images. With that I agree it can't be 193 and I would tend to agree with the 196 attribution. Not sure why it seems to show the gouge(?) from the 1 to the right ribbon.
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Yeah, I see what you mean about the gouge, I'll take a closer look at mine. The NGC VarietyPlus example, doesn't show much of a gouge.
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Nice
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