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1826 Large Cent, Die Crack Or Planchet Defect?

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Have it as an N-3, but there is no die crack on that variety, so possibly defect in planchet. Pretty sure it's not a scratch, as there is a height difference on each side.

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Looks like a die crack to me.
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VG-8 IMHO
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Looks like the line is recessed into the coin, not raised as would be the case for a die crack. Based on these images I'd guess this was a crack in the planchet that was not completely obliterated by the striking process. A die crack should not cause a "height difference" on each side but a planchet crack might show that effect.
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Thanks for the replies. about the planchet defect. If it were a crack, wouldn't it show up, in some form, on all other N-3's?
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You would think on many of them, anyway.
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Looks like a die crack. The 3rd image shows it raised on the lower areas on the coin. On the tops of the devices, the crack appear that it is worn off. Thus looking like it is not raised. But again look at the 3rd image and you cans see on the 'AT' on STATES where it is raised next to the field level.
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Yeah, I'm kind of in agreement that it has to be a planchet issue, because I don't think I discovered a new variety. If it was a die crack, it would be on lots of other N-3's and it would be listed.
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Planchet flaw or scratch.
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Can't tell if it is a crack or a scratch. Looks like it could be a crack, but where it crosses the leaves it looks like a scratch. I agree it is a N-3. Even if it is a die crack that doesn't make it a new variety, just a late, possibly terminal, die stage.
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Just took a couple of shots with my elcheapo usb microscope. It could be a scratch or a crack, but possibly a planchet flaw. Looks like the crack/flaw goes into the rim, and it appears there is a height difference on either side, and some crud has accumulated in it.

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With the new images I'd say not a scratch. Still think it looks odd for a crack. Planchet flaw is looking like a better and better option.
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Cool LC. No way thats a scratch. Looks like a die crack from a sunken die to me. Is there a center dot? I am not seeing one.
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Newcomb's N3, late die state complete with fused denticles and sunken obverse. Agree w/planchet flaw.
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Another question from the picture of the coin; has this coin been lacquered? It was a practice of protecting a coin's surface popular I suppose in the 1950's and 60's right? What is best to use now to protect a surface without slabbing it?
Anybody still lacquer them?
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