Pennies, Cents, Call Them What You Will

So far I oly watched the first video. Interesting arguments on both sides. Like a raving collector, my eye pulled out the wheatie in the pile at 1:33.

I thought the videos were entertaining and informative. And of course I agree with them. At least the part about getting rid of the penny and the dollar bill. But alas, I fear that it will never happen until money goes away completely. And I am NOT looking forward to that. Besides, without actual coins to spend, what kid is going to want to collect them?

Other countries have successfully removed pennies and the dollar bill and replaced with dollar coins and they haven't fallen off the map or went into chaos. The US is just so resistant to change.

Are you sure the world won't end? Seriously? Nah - it HAS to!

A moot point that diverts from the actual issue.

And this is certainly not the first time this moot point has been proffered.

...and bringing up that once again subject is skirting the issue....

Why is there such a dire need for getting rid of the bills? I objectively (look for the posts!) researched all the possible benefits posted on this forum and showed they do not have a scientific, factual base to continue being quoted as benefits. And I note people have been intelligent enough, therefore, not to keep using those defunct concepts anymore -- Bully for you!

At the start we all thought the stated reasons were plausible.

So what is left when logic and reason are gone? Why is coercion needed?
{queue the familiar sound of crickets chirping as with all times I ask this question in threads of this ilk}


There are most definitely legitimate concerns behind not agreeing with the coin coercionists (like my new term ?).

It is permissible to post on these threads the (proven) unwarranted desire for government coercion to eliminate bills. However, not desiring this coercion, with legitimate reasons to back this position, is conveniently labeled as improper for these thread.

Hmm...forum politics - is that too political?

What other recourse is left than to assume people are not able to face up to the fact that with nothing to back them up, coin-coercers want what they want because they... well.. want it. On this issue, the concept of self-gratification seems more important than the majority being allowed their preference (that was a friendly way of saying selfishness appears to be is king).

Being brutally honest, but with a , the situation being pushed without legitimacy, and no explanation, reminds me of of recent campus reactions to a vote that was taken.

People's writings and thoughts fall into generalized patterns that are fun to study. My profession was one which (at least to me) required I delve into this area of study.

On this forum, ever since the alleged coin-only benefits were found to be absent, people have been saying "well just force the issue," while I have been asking them to own up and inspect their motivations. It is important to weigh our desires against consequences if we truly care -- the way we all believe that we care.

But a word of encouragement. Honest... admitting you don't have a leg to stand on except (irrational by nature) emotions does not hurt too much once you get over it. I did so with the pennies and nickels and guess what? The world did not end (oops)

I think the real issue is the production of the failed dollar coin program. We all know why it failed miserably too. The powers that be decided to churn these things out knowing that they would fail. Government pork? You betcha! It is a fact beyond the shadow of a doubt that coins last longer than the material notes are made of. However it just falls on deaf ears.

They failed only because the one dollar note was not withdrawn. Kill the note and the coins will circulate just as they do in Canada. It does not matter if you like it or if people complain, those are the facts. The dollar coin will circulate if you remove its existing competition.

Correct! It does not matter if someone likes it or if they complain that the American majority is not having to kowtow to an emotional few who prefer to support something shown to be baseless in claims of superiority.

This is what America is all about. Unnecessary coercion by the powers that be is a scary, worrisome desire.



To me this is kind of a "Captain Obvious" statement that keeps coming up ... and for what reason? I cannot imagine any person capable of thought would disagree that if there was nothing better () to use, then these coins would have circulated.

But the point is, there is no point -- in coercion to coins.

I am rather proud we Americans are again showing the rest of the world that as a whole, we don't see the sense, or feel the need to change our preference just b/c other countries have done so. We have always played out own tune (also to the benefit of other countries) and proudly continue to do so.

I have heard recently that playing with legos helps.