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When creating a proposed coin design, it is scraped out of a plaster round about 8-10 inches in diameter. They are then used to create molds that are subsequently mechanically miniaturized. The ones shown so far are 19th century examples. Below are the plaster model submissions made by an unknown artist in the 1938 contest for the Jefferson nickel won by Felix Schlag.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Thanks for the response numismatic_student, and by the way ...
May I have that Jefferson Plaster please? Awesome!

I once was at an early PAN club meeting in Clarion PA ( Pennsylvania Association of Numismatics ) and I think that the wife of Frank Gasparro attended, It is a little vague to me. It was back in January of 1983 or thereabout.
It could have been Gilroy Roberts wife.
Neither of the engravers were present but a plaster that was of either the reverse or obverse of the Kennedy half was at the meeting and they made the engraver(s) honorary members of the club. I think she ( whichever it was ) accepted an award on behalf of her husband.

I know it was the Kennedy half but can't make heads or tails of it, if you'll pardon the pun.

It very well may have been the plaster shown in this picture below. I still have my "wooden flat" membership card somewhere as I was secretary for our coin club and went as a representative along with a couple other members, and gave a report back to the club.

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This is the original plaster cast of the indian head half eagle by Bela Lyon Pratt.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Mint Medal

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Thanks jbuck! One of my favorites.

1781 Libertas Americana Medal PCGS MS64 - sold 2007 $149,500

Ron Guth: The Libertas Americana medal is one of the most famous and cherished of all the medals relating to American history. According to the historical record, the brainchild for the medal and its designs was none other than Benjamin Franklin.

In a March 1782 letter to Robert Livingston, U.S. Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Franklin wrote, "This puts me in mind of a medal I have had a mind to strike ... representing the United States by the figure of an infant Hercules in his cradle, strangling the two serpents; and France by that of Minerva, sitting by as his nurse, with her spear and helmet, and her robe specked by a few 'fleurs-de-lis." (quoted in Joseph Loubat's The Medallic History of the United States of America). Clearly, the final design is a bit more aggressive than Franklin's suggestion, but one gets the point nonetheless.

The obverse of the medal shows a head of Liberty with flowing hair, facing right, a freedman's cap atop a pole in the background. This model served as the inspiration for some of the U.S. Pattern coinage of 1792 and for the first U.S. Half Cents in 1793.

Silver versions of the Libertas Americana medal are very rare. Bronze versions are more common but still valuable and highly prized. The finest silver version certified by PCGS is a single PCGS MS64. (Not true. The Cardinal Collection/Harry Bass specimen is PCGS MS65)

If you are interested in purchasing one, there is one for sale for $132,500. https://www.nfccoins.com/products/5189

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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@NS, it has been a dozen pages or so since I last complimented you on this thread. I am still enjoying your frequent posts, so please keep them coming!
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Glad you are enjoying it. Looking forward to seeing here what you love about numismatics!
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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That is a lovely medal.

Thank you for the story behind it.
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Sometimes I wonder why we can no longer produce designs like this stunning specimen from New Zealand.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Today being earth day and science day, I thought I would highlight how some adventure physicists used thousands of joules of energy, plasma and vaporized copper coils to shrink quarters down to a size smaller than that of a dime.

Why? Who cares... they just showed they could.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Neat!
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Today being earth day and science day, I thought I would highlight how some adventure physicists used thousands of joules of energy, plasma and vaporized copper coils to shrink quarters down to a size smaller than that of a dime.
Very nice!

For more, here is a list of previous threads...

http://goccf.com/t/63790
http://goccf.com/t/116799
http://goccf.com/t/124018
http://goccf.com/t/134262
http://goccf.com/t/157135
http://goccf.com/t/167839
http://goccf.com/t/172094
http://goccf.com/t/182084
http://goccf.com/t/230088
http://goccf.com/t/236145
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haha, there is nothing truly new in the world...
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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