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1943 "Bronze" "Copper" "Experimental" ..... Real/Fake?

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The '4' isn't right for an altered 1942.
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I see casting porosity and extra bits of metal on the reverse. Easiest to see on the 2nd to last photo.

But good luck.
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, I don't know , if it's a fake it's a very good one . Good luck in finding it's authenticity .
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I still can't pinpoint a single thing, but the more I look, the more "off" it looks.
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Wow that would be amazing!! Although I am fairly new to coins I have 20+ years with casting metals and alloys. From the given pics I see a lot of cast flashing arouND the rim as well as pretty strong bubbling through out the field, jacket, neck, and lower portion of the face. Also the 3 looks to have a contained bubble. The sharpness of the lettering as opposed to the facial/hair details is common with copper/mix casting. But don't get me wrong, I want nothing more than to be wrong! This would be AMAZING for new collectors like myself to know it's still possible. Good luck my friend.
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Why not just go to a large coin or gold shop and have it XRF answer instantly.
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Any "We buy gold and silver" Shop or higher end pawn Shop should be able to do.
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Good luck and keep us posted!
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I see casting porosity and extra bits of metal on the reverse. Easiest to see on the 2nd to last photo.



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I still can't pinpoint a single thing, but the more I look, the more "off" it looks.


The obverse images do not demonstrate the true sharpness of a U.S. die struck coin. View some genuine 1943 pieces in bronze (which would have nearly identical sharpness and color to an experimental planchet). Here's the first obverse image next to a genuine piece.

There's always a one in a million chance that lightning strikes and somebody wins the Powerball but this coin is likely one of the many thousands of copies made for this issue.

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Thank you all for the wealth of information, comments,valued opinions,questions and the welcome! I am learning more and more from this website from members and past threads. If my coin turns out to be fake it IS definatley a great one! I'm still undecided and welcome any skeptism. Also I figure if it turns out to be a fake maybe the [pics will help others if they have a questionable 43.

I am trying to work on my photo skills, here are more with different hopefully better lighting and comparisons. Yes it would be like hitting the lotto or being struck by lightning for it to be real. But then again you can't win if you don't play and there are ways to increase your odds of being struck by lightning also.

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Also, I'm trying to learn about other errors, Am I seeing the Blakesly effect on this coin? both sides? Partial out of collar-"die attrition" or reeding error? Please forgive me if I'm useing the wrong terminology. I also have cleaned it with alchhol and cotton swap too see it better hopefully in pics. Someone asked if I know the history of how it got to Puerto Rico, and I don't know, the seller sells purses and clothing, spoke little english ...... thanks again for the help.



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I found this article witch could explain the weight?

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...view/3-2ERAP
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I hope its real, but I have no idea
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Pretty sure it's a fake. Given the prospective value of such a coin, it's worth it to send to PCGS and let them sort it out.
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I almost wish it were fake now, because it would be horrible if a genuine copper 1943 got cleaned with a cotton swab and alcohol because we neglected to tell you not to clean it! Anyway, finding this coin at a purse vendor in Puerto Rico almost guarantees that it's not real.
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with Zurie. that could be a huge mistake.
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