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okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5586 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 3:27 pm The loss of brick and mortar stores is not just relegated to coin shops... the list is as long as your arm. Ma & Pa groceries, shoe stores, locally owned clothing stores,hobby shops, Woolworths, 5 & dime, etc .. all are gone because of large box stores and the internet and because we now mostly live out in the suburbs and trips to town (especially walking ones) are few and far between. We are people on the internet and world-wide markets now and it's no longer possible to go into a store with a local owner and know about his family and ideals. We, who collect coins, stamps, antiques, old glassware, etc are relegated to buying stuff at coin shows or internet. As long as people need to find a hobby to perk their interest and spent some down time, then collecting of all kinds will continue to exist. People who reach middle age will continue to think about things they enjoyed as kids or youth and want to buy or keep some things from that time and to show their kids and grandkids items that were common when they, themselves were young. The hobby will do OK. I just hope that, in the future, so-called political correctness doesn't teach people to keep their mouths closed and stop talking to one another. I think that it's ludicrous to ever conceive that the term grannybait is derogatory to females or old people .. it's a term understood by most everyone. Report this Post to the Staff
inconnu Valued Member Canada 93 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 3:27 pm Alan, are "kind points" some kind of crypocurrency used by the PC crowd ? I suspect that Zonad, paccoin, and I will not be collecting them any time soon. Report this Post to the Staff
Alan Pillar of the Community Canada 1463 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 3:43 pm I sympathize with you and your old neighbor inconnu, stamps have sure been nailed, and coins have been no picnic as of late. I hope kind points dont become a thing, though watching the news cycle, one can only be lead to believe that some sort of Orwellian future is in store. Until then, it's best to keep kind points confined to this board so the gov doesn't get any big ideas haha! However, I would trade anyone a loonie for a you spoke unfavourably about a protest negative point. Report this Post to the Staff
wildflowerAB Pillar of the Community Canada 2845 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 4:13 pm Quote: I think that it's ludicrous to ever conceive that the term grannybait is derogatory to females or old people .. it's a term understood by most everyone. "Most everyone"? I hadn't noticed a comment from even one other female suggesting they don't mind being referred to in a deragatory manner, unless I missed it. As for my motive and on the topic of this thread, some of you don't think the term is disrespectful, yet you also dispute that in this day and age a group of people casually tossing around sexist terminology turns off people who might otherwise become interested in the hobby. You can't have it both ways. Report this Post to the Staff
Alan Pillar of the Community Canada 1463 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 4:27 pm I think most are open to change and ask that a term be made instead of granny bait, someone threw out grandpa bait, fine by me. But the term rip off doesn't totally encompass what the mint has done or encompass/define the situation at hand. You should do a poll, and state your case, I think it would be good to give the discussion it's own thread and people may be more willing to address it positively because it's a topic all of its own. But I think we should respect the views of others if the results are against what you wish for. Edited by Alan 02/08/2017 4:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff
M_d_in_guy Pillar of the Community Canada 1049 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 4:29 pm I've been away from the forum for some time now. Coming back and seeing how this thread has been put under a microscope due to a term that's been around since I was knee high to a grasshopper boggles the mind. It's really sad to see how some become offended due to a simplistic term that has a simple meaning that's also been shared. Political Correctness will never do society any favors except create division, dis-trust, verbal warfare etc. There was a time when people could speak and say what they had to say without having to deal with backlash of the few who read into the words, meanings that are "NOT" being projected. ............................. Report this Post to the Staff
DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 4:38 pm Quote: I thought that my collection would retain its value and would be passed on to my kids ever though I knew I was buying retail and selling wholesale .. Why would you think that your kids want your hobby..? Are they as interested as maybe your wife is..? Quote: Yes, it is sad to see those things we thought collectable and something of value that we could pass on to our kids/grandkids be devalued to such an extent. I still don't understand how some feel that their kids want the same collectibles as their parents..? If you really want to pass on a sure-bet investment for your kids...then the safest bet would be to put that "collecting cash" aside in an investment vehicle and watch it grow over 40 years..and then let them know exactly what you have planned for them. Education,..down-payment on a house.....whatever.. This is our hobby..not their's..so enjoy it as best as you can,....and if you feel that it's no longer fun and that you have to move on ,..then definitely do so.. Report this Post to the Staff
SilverDon Pillar of the Community Canada 2360 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 5:10 pm My coin collecting history is short. Six years ago, I started buying 20 for 20 coins because my wife bought me one and I said - hmm silver. Then I slowly started collecting dollars, 50 cent pieces and varieties and errors. Now I like everything going. I am less into the non circulating coins now, but purchase some ongoing themes, silver dollars mostly. They are new now but will age and carry the history of the day. No need to be a snob about what you collect. Some like tokens, dark and brown, others like toners and pay a huge premium for bullseye pattern neon colours. NCLT is just another type of coin with a newer date and proof or specimen features. A metal planchet is squished between two dies in a collar. The value of some NCLT goes up, and some is later worth melt, the value of some circulation coins go up (1945 dollars) and some are worth melt (junk silver, late 1960s lower grades). The trick is to love what you purchase and realise that you are not getting rich off this collecting hobby. You end up with a bunch of metal discs in a box, dull, tarnished or shiny. In the grand scheme of things, one hopes that they can be sold for approximately what you paid, but in most cases you or your descendants will get half. Buy at 1/2 of trends if you can, some say 70%. B&M stores must be tough to keep open, ebay or on-line seems like a better sales solution but oh the return policies and ripoffs, claims and shipping BS. I buy mostly from one retailer who has discounted coins on sale. I find some Local Coin Shop owners ask too much for sales (full trends) and offer too little for trade or purchase (half). Biggest threat to this hobby is the bank card and phone apps, with no coinage circulating, there will be nothing to collect eventually. Report this Post to the Staff
wildflowerAB Pillar of the Community Canada 2845 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 5:14 pm Quote: You should do a poll, and state your case, I think it would be good to give the discussion it's own thread and people may be more willing to address it positively because it's a topic all of its own. But I think we should respect the views of others if the results are against what you wish for. My comment regarding a poll was to determine the age and gender of those who most avidly buy NCLT. It's appears to me to be younger males. Of those who frequent the NCLT forum in general, I know its certainly not grannies. That's one of the reasons the use of the word is ridiculous, it's not even applicable if it ever was. As far as a vote as to whether usage of the work GrannyBait should be offensive to females or not, is that what you're suggesting? I sure hope not, otherwise I feel as if I've walked back into the dark ages. If people can't treat one another respectfully and avoid the stereotype name calling, this hobby deserves its death. Report this Post to the Staff
aghawk Valued Member Canada 343 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 5:22 pm Not going to wade into this debate as I see relevance on both sides of the topic. However this: Quote: If people can't treat one another respectfully and avoid the stereotype name calling, this hobby deserves its death. The term that has you so upset could have been in any forum or online venue - it has nothing specifically to do about this hobby or the people who practice it. Report this Post to the Staff
Alan Pillar of the Community Canada 1463 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 5:24 pm I don't see anything wrong with a poll, I understood that to have beeen what you meant, apologies if you meant otherwise. I think it would be good to open it up to debate in its own dicscussion. I think many are responding the way they are because it's a different topic than what was posted, and the negativity is likely coming from some who may feel that your tone was attacking in nature. There's a saying about using sugar rather than vinegar when you want to effect change, I can't remember the exact saying, but I think it would apply here. Edited by Alan 02/08/2017 5:26 pm Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5586 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 5:26 pm I hear the flies buzzing around this dead horse. Hopefully no one else will kick it. Report this Post to the Staff
aghawk Valued Member Canada 343 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 5:35 pm Back on topic. I understand the frustrations many have with coin collecting - especially in terms of collections losing value either right away or over time and that is a valid point. For me it doesn't take up a lot of room, is relatively affordable and as mentioned in other posts I also derive a good amount of pleasure in the hunt for a great bargain. Report this Post to the Staff
wildflowerAB Pillar of the Community Canada 2845 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 6:01 pm Quote: I don't see anything wrong with a poll, I understood that to have beeen what you meant, apologies if you meant otherwise. Thanks but I'm not stepping into a war between Circulation and NCLT collectors. To ask NCLT collectors is it okay to refer to what they collect as GrannyBait, is it a full moon or how many people here are we setting out to offend today? The division between the two types of collecting is already too deep to be healthy in my opinion, considering it's essentially all one hobby. Quote: The term that has you so upset could have been in any forum or online venue - it has nothing specifically to do about this hobby or the people who practice it. Regarding numismatics, the term GrannyBait refers to NCLT that RCM sells. Edited by wildflowerAB 02/08/2017 6:04 pm Report this Post to the Staff
DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 02/08/2017 6:16 pm Quote: If people can't treat one another respectfully and avoid the stereotype name calling, ""this hobby deserves its death."" ..and that's just nasty.. Now that does just seem like a bit of "baiting".. Report this Post to the Staff
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