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Seven Coins Middleage Need Identification

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To coincommunityforum,

Well, actually I have an exact ID on the first coin on top to the left; it's Danish MB 252, but I am searching for exact ID on the other 6 coins.

3 of them might be Spanish? Then maybe Hungary, Austria, or?

Thanks in advance.

Palle
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@Palle, it would be super-helpful if you posted each coin separately so that it is blown up to its full level of detail. Thx.
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That square one looks like it is one heller from the German State Augsburg, made from 1624 to 1708 (I cannot tell the date, but the coin can be seen here).

The three with castles all look Spanish. The two smaller ones look like they could be dateless blancas (see here), but I am not too sure what the larger one is.
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Many thanks for the help so far. I have now scanned the six coins in again with a total of 12 scans. I will try and add these pics.

The three first ones with a castle seems to be Spanish under Philip II 1556-1598. Could these be typed exactly? Are these coins in dates?

The square one yes seems like KM A23, the date is 16? I can see clearly.

The smallest one is actually not bad at all; of course (much) better in hand.

The last one, number six, well, anyone knows?

Thank you :)
Palle
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PS. First this text, pics will follow - I hope.
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Actually I think the smaller pics was better.
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I agree, the first picture seems more clear.

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The three first ones with a castle seems to be Spanish under Philip II 1556-1598. Could these be typed exactly? Are these coins in dates?

I do not think so. Or at least, I could not find anything that would help narrow down the dates. Maybe someone else can help with that.

At first, I thought that small one was from Portuguese India because of the cross, but I could not find any examples where the ends were not flat. But then I found this coin, which has a similar cross. So maybe it is also Spanish? I am not seeing a face on the other side though. NGC lists a lot of different dineros; most have faces, but not all. But maybe it is not even of that denomination. Sadly, NGC does not have many pictures, so I cannot really narrow it down anymore than "probably Spanish."

And I do not even know where to start on that top-middle one.

Sorry I cannot be of much help with these. Hopefully someone else has some information on them.
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@prncoins, I agree that your first three coins are from Phillip II. They all look copper to me and if they are about 15 mm in diameter, then I think that they are Blancas. The dates for all three would be in the range of 1566 (when these were started to be minted) to 1598 AD (when his rule ended). None of these have the date as part of the coin's inscription.

Sorry that I can't give you exact attributions, but they look to me like they all belong somewhere between #3104 and #3128 in Clemente & Cayon. Pinning that down further would require being able to identify the symbols to the left and right of the royal insignia and/or aqueduct. I don't see enough detail to help you with that. Getting that right would also pin down the specific mint (Burgos, Coruna, Cuenca, Granada, Segovia, Toledo, or Valladolid). Right now, the only mint that I can rule out is Pamplona, because the design was significantly different on their coins. When I squint, I can sorta convince myself that there is a letter T on the obv of the second coin. If so, then that could suggest that you have either #3128 or 3129, both of which were minted in Toledo.
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Many thanks for your answers, and sorry I have been away some days, but you probably all know how it is in the modern western world today. We are too busy most of us.

I am not a collector of coins, but actually far most of numismatic litterature, and actually I saw the book Clemente & Cayon for the first time a few days ago - I didn't knew this book - and it will come at auction later this year where I will try and purhase it.

These six coins will be sold soon at a Danish site; probably they are not good enough for ebay. Before I sell them though, I will look a bit more into it.

Thanks again,
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My go-to source of info on Spanish coins from before 1601.
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