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I used "ask seller a question" and asked "where do you get the coins you are selling? The response I got from the seller (of all these rare coins is: "my boss owns a coin shop and I do the ebay part of his buisness to earn myself a lil extra money" -rhonda2166 I responded back with something like 'your boss is letting you sell a rare coin worth MANY THOUSANDS of dollars (to earn a lil extra money) like that FE with the horrible pictures you had on the add'  Fast Eddie |
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United States
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"my boss owns a coin shop...yada, yada, yada" Classic aversion technique of sellers who auction questionable items--so they can hand off blame to some ghost in the background. Based on my dealings with ebay fraud, I think this seller knows exactly what they're doing. These guys operate from the assumption they can outsmart you, where direct confrontation seldom works--short of ebay or legal intervention. Edited by KurtS
04/13/2008 2:54 pm
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Wow, I looked at some of "Rhonda's" completed auctions, and the coins don't look kosher. The 83cc Morgan looks just like the Chinese Morgans... dull and thick. The Indians looked 'wrong' to say the least. I blew one picture up, and it looked like Liberty was smiling. There is one buyer, http://myworld.ebay.com/lonesomeorgangrinder/that has bought several. I am tempted to send a note to the buyer: "Just a friendly note, have all the coins you bought from Rhonda authenticated ASAP." Nothing more, nothing less... I would want someone else to do the same for me, but I don't know if ebay would find out and sanction my account. This poor shmo is probably going to keep buying from Rhonda. Probably has 'her' on their favorite sellers list, with eMail noticfication set. |
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Dave, Don't worry about ebay sanctions..I have been doing emails like that to buyers of suspect sellers for a long time now and never been an ebay issue Edited by fasteddie
04/13/2008 3:14 pm
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For clarification, I have other hobbies, and found a similar seller working guys on that message board. He was switching seller names, shill bidding, not listing shipping then gouging after sale... HUGE gouging. We caught him in several schemes and he was pretty easy to pick out when he opened a new seller account. Anyway, we followed him and his buyers for a year and sent helpful mail to buyers/bidders... They (buyers) were very happy. But the seller found out and sicked ebay on us... myself included. In the end, we ended up getting him banned for life from ebay... but I don't know if I should have my account tied to more "helpful" messages. He was smarter than Rhonda... he wouldn't take credit or PayPal. So sellers had no recourse, and technically his auctions weren't breaking laws. They were just SEVERELY misleading and grossly ignoring ebay rules. Therefore the USPS delivery of payment through cashier check was not mail fraud. No crime, no fraud. |
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Hmmmm I have some beach front property in Kansas...I think I'll email Rhonda and ask if 'she' wants to earn a lil extra cash, and sell it for me! Edited by fasteddie
04/13/2008 3:24 pm
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I wonder. if the buyer who was informed by memders of this forum the two coins he purchased are fake.
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well the buyer has pay pal protection of only $200...the rest they are outta luck
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well the buyer has pay pal protection of only $200...the rest they are outta luck
What if you bought with PayPal, but funded PayPal with a credit card? Would your credit card take up the slack? And why, when I fund PP with a card, do they have a pop-up that tries to push my funding back to my bank account? It tries hard too. They want BADLY to fund with a bank withdrawl for some reason. ? |
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"And why, when I fund PP with a card, do they have a pop-up that tries to push my funding back to my bank account?
It tries hard too.
They want BADLY to fund with a bank withdrawal for some reason.
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You just hit on something there. Legal or not, your credit card company that has been "your" provider for years of good service certainly isn't going to side against you readily on flaky auction rules when being manipulated by potential fraudsters. On the other hand bank transactions are instant and the cash is moved. Whereas a credit card has that billing cycle lag and when you call them to report a fraud or other serious problem their intervention is on your behalf.
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"What if you bought with PayPal, but funded PayPal with
a credit card?
Would your credit card take up the slack?"
Actually your credit card is primary and they will protect you first. I had an incident with non delivery of a 900.00 coin and called my credit card company..they refunded ME FIRST. Pay Pal then refunded me 200.00 and collected the 200.00 back from the my credit card (and of course I was charged back) after they saw that I was already paid back by my credit card.
Pay Pal also tries to get you to use use bank account because if you use a credit card to fund THEY (pay Pal) are charged a fee by the credit card company...probably a low fee because I'm sure they have a good contract, but nevertheless a fee.
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"What do you think of this 89cc?"
I don't know any seller that wouldn't raise wholly he** if they sold an 89CC in AU cond and got only 1600.00. Even if it were XF still an incredible buy if authentic
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04/13/2008 7:44 pm
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Ratio411, I would be cautious about anything from this seller. Look at the date on these counterfeit coins from China. They don't show a mint mark, but if you were going to counterfeit an 1889 which mark would you use? And also it looks as if they tried to tone this coin with chlorine. My first instinct is fake. Somebody needs to stop this seller.  |
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I wonder why this picture looks staged to hide the mint mark...  Then this one was put in there showing the CC. If you were taking pics for an auction, and they charge you for multiple pics, AND you took several pics... Would you not choose the best obverse and reverse? Rather than pay for an extra pic that is duplicitous for the most part, but unsuited for what it lacks?  This one is interesting... http://cgi.ebay.com/book-set-of-mer...45_W0QQitemZ250234960156QQihZ015QQcategoryZ11960QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I would bet that every coin in that folder is real but one. Edited by ratio411
04/13/2008 7:57 pm
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