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Doctorwho2485 Valued Member New Zealand 292 Posts	Posted 06/09/2017 01:24 am Hi Everyone, it's been a while and I've just moved to nice house up in the Dunedin hills in the nice,rich,posh area of Dunedin called Roslyn over looking the sea. Anyway find this gem in a uncleaned lot I got few weeks ago. It's a very nice bronze Centenionalis of Gratian. More info Gratian, 24 August 367 - 25 August 383 A.D. Gratian, son of Valentinian I, became the sole ruler of the Western empire in 375 A.D., and after the catastrophic defeat of the Roman forces at Hadrianopolis, the Eastern empire also came under his rule. To better cope with the empire, he elevated general Theodosius to the Eastern throne. Because of a shortage of coinage to meet the payroll, Gratian was abandoned by his troops during the revolt of Magnus Maximus. He was overtaken and killed while fleeing to the Alps. Pics. Report this Post to the Staff

echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 06/09/2017 08:54 am Really nice looking patina. Report this Post to the Staff
lrbguy Pillar of the Community United States 949 Posts	Posted 06/09/2017 3:41 pm Sorry to have to disagree, but from what I see, this coin has been stripped of its patina right down to the shiny metal. Far from being a gem it is ruined. I could be wrong and it could just be the lighting. Others? Report this Post to the Staff
tenbobbit Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 701 Posts	Posted 06/09/2017 4:50 pm I wasn't sure if it was the lighting and it had that brown patina that is hard to photograph. My initial thought was with Ellarby in that it had been harshly cleaned, some form of heat treatment maybe ? Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34418 Posts	Posted 06/09/2017 9:13 pm @DW2485, perhaps you could briefly describe your method for taking coins from uncleaned lots to this stage? You might find that folks here have some pointers that will permit identification without harshly cleaning. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Doctorwho2485 Valued Member New Zealand 292 Posts	Posted 06/10/2017 12:52 am Hi guys, Thanks and it's the lighting and the photo was taken with a cellphone too. It's got a brown patina and I soak them in distilled water for a while and than a gentle brush too. Still got some soaking too. I'll take another photo of this one. Report this Post to the Staff
Doctorwho2485 Valued Member New Zealand 292 Posts	Posted 06/10/2017 01:04 am Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 06/10/2017 01:19 am Thats better ..nice coin ...good find Paul Report this Post to the Staff
lrbguy Pillar of the Community United States 949 Posts	Posted 06/10/2017 2:07 pm Glad to see it was just the lighting, but what a difference the quality of the photography makes. Could we see this coin without any covering material, in one-to-one imaging, with good lighting? If that cannot be done then scans of the two sides would be better than the handheld pics we have seen so far. Report this Post to the Staff
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