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How would you grade this coin? I'll post PCGS grade after 24h.   |
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From the pics, AU58. Washed out luster and the cheek appears thumb rubbed. Nice coin, but a slider AU.
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MS 64 , Looks more like staining than toning.
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From the pics, AU58. Washed out luster and the cheek appears thumb rubbed. Nice coin, but a slider AU.
I won't theorize regarding PCGS' grade on this one. To me, I see a coin which has been dipped to the very edge of "too much," and possibly past that point. This is what happens to luster when the microscopic roughness of the surfaces are stripped. I note some small dots of blackness especially on the reverse (not sure of the spot in front of the neck on the obverse is of similar origin), and it's difficult for me to imagine that these few spots are the sole product of whatever created them. The far greater likelihood is that they're the sole remaining evidence of the procedure which removed the rest. There is, to my mind, too much similarity in the texture of the fields compared to those of the devices; this also hints at a hard dip. With that said, in fairness to the coin it should be noted that older dies which have been used past their capacity to continue creating that microstructure which causes "luster" can crate a similar appearance. Further, we have only one set of images under one specific lighting regimen to evaluate, and those are slightly overexposed, which causes surface artifacting on its' own. A second set of images under differing lighting might create a different impression. My opinion? It's difficult to tell whether the weakness one sees is the beginning of wear or just strike and/or die wear. Looking at some of the marks on the chin, and what seems like rub at the lower point of the neck (an important place to look on a Morgan when doing the "circulated/uncirculated" calculation), I'm concluding the coin has just a smallest beginning of actual circulation wear. AU Details, non-original surfaces. |
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Well now, this one's grade will really be interesting....  |
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Usually don't follow up on this sort of thing, but I'm riveted here.
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MS63. I see no signs of circulation but the nicks on the cheek and bust are enough to hold it back from a 64 or better. Fields are relatively clean, and the reverse is better than the obverse.
The dies have clashed once, very lightly, with a single mark on the right inner wreath and what looks like a faint counterclash at the cap V.
Luster on the obverse is somewhat washed out, but I won't speculate as to whether this is lighting or dipping.
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