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'manufactured Spending': How A University Student Racked Up Travel Rewards

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 Posted 11/17/2017  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It can be done but not as described in the article, was just at one of the larger GTA GM dealers, salesman told me that had a customer purchase a 30,000 car with all new BNS, GM visa points, there is no limits on how many GM points to redeem on a auto purchase but in order to get 30,000 points you have to spend 3 million on your visa
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 Posted 11/17/2017  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Most credit cards are 1% reward so in order to gain a 2000.00 dollar flight you would , need 200,000 worth of x for x coins can't see how an individual was able to buy such amount.


From a BBC article, it is explained how he did it. You are right, he did not go the route of 1% rewards. He did it through something called credit card churning. Credit card companies often offer 15,000, 20,000, 30,000 points when signing up and spending xx$ amounts within a time period. These point are good enough for a flight. Also, you do not need to spend hundreds of thousands on coins to do it. Usually you need only to spend $2000 to $5000 within a few months to get the points.

By credit card churning, that means cancelling your credit card when you get your points and re-applying and doing it again and again. You could do it with different credit cards at the same time. In this case, the guy was redeeming the coins at the bank to pay off the credit card bill he used for buying the coins. So he got the points for free.

From the BBC article:

Avery Campbell, 24, uses a strategy called "manufactured spending", which means shopping just to earn points on credit-card rewards programmes.

Recently he bought coins from the Canada Mint to collect points, then used the same coins to pay his bills.

The scheme has helped him travel to "every inhabited continent" - sometimes first-class - for little or no money.

"I have pretty darn good credit," he told the BBC while waiting to board a flight to Chicago where he will be attending a manufactured spending conference.

Manufactured spending works when customers are able to buy something on their credit cards that can be used like cash, collecting points essentially for free.

Mr Campbell uses these loopholes to help him do something called "credit-card churn", which is when you sign up for a new credit card in exchange for a large amount of reward points.

Most credit-card companies have a minimum amount a customer must spend in order to qualify for the points.

In the case of the Canadian Mint, Mr Campbell was able to collect points from buying the collectors coins on his credit card, then pay back that same purchase using the legal tender.

These purchases helped him meet his minimum spend quickly, and without incurring debt.

The British Airways flight would have cost about C$400 ($314, £238), he says, but he used his points. This time he flew coach, but he has travelled first-class on Lufthansa and Emirates airlines.
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On the CBC articles he infers that he is travelling all over in first class, even to get 5000 bucks of x for x coins you had to have been one of the super reps who would allow such volume, but all the power to him for manipulating the system. I found most of these air mile reward cards comes with a lot of rules and restriction
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 Posted 11/18/2017  05:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know they minted a pile of these coins, but I have to wonder about the number of redemptions.
What proportion of coins still remain in collectors hands? Is is possible to tell, are they tracking
the coins redeemed. Are some 200 for 200 or 50 for 50 harder to find now?
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The article mentions the RCM sold about 180 million bucks of these coins, you just have to see the last 3 years or so of annual reports and you will get a good idea of how much has been redeemed.
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John100... do you know if the redemption amount has been published? You would think that in the annual report, they would report on this failure too. Otherwise, an FOI request is in order.
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I believe there was some mention of this number and kind of the reason for the RCM to stop the program in the year before the x for x ending, the RCM should know that the majority of these coins were sold in Canada as such at some point incur a massive redemption along with associated bank fees and shipping, and production cost to boot
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