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So this is an odd bird with messed up legends and even appears to be overstruck on another coin. I know there are lots of Chinese counterfeits but could this one be an old one from the era & meant to circulate? It weighs about 6.8g. Thank you!   *** Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Rest in Peace
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Ah, waddaya think? Spelled wrong, letters change fonts in mid stream, I'm in the tank to say no-go stink-ko
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12/17/2017 01:17 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Politically, China was in great turmoil at the time when this coin was produced. Millions lost their lives.
Really, I have no idea under what circumstances in which this particular coin could have made, however
it may have been produced in a temporary traveling mint by one of the many warlords of the time.
Such a theory would help to explain why it is so poorly over struck on captured coin, and with blundered legends.
Definitely a keeper, even though it's true origins may never be known. Still part of China's history, nevertheless.
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Brummagem: I read the links. I knew a little, but now I know a lot more. Thanks for the information.  |
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This is indeed a contemporary counterfeit that managed to circulate. This was struck over a genuine 5 fun coin. Unfortunately the details aren't quite there but it looks like it was overstruck over 1892 5 fun as shown  Better photos may help to identify the exact coin. That said, it's quite interesting to see a counterfeit that's THIS bad. As of why it's interesting - this is supposedly a Kiangnan coin but on the reverse, it's from Kwangtung Province (wrongly spelt). I own four examples and this is easily the worst. Never seen an example of Kiangnan Province. Regardless, it's still very collectable to the right group of people. |
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Hi gxseries - thank you! Much appreciated! Here are a couple more photos of what I think is the underlying date area of the 5 Fun (I had to look it up) - the last figure is not clear to me but I think is likely the same as the coin in your photos. Chute72 - for some reason your link just brings me to a general ebay page and not a specific listing. I'd love to see the coin you found that looks like this one so if you can provide another link or even a auction title maybe I can track it down.   |
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Brummagem - I do have a collection of Korean coins from this era. Look up under "korea_year_type_album" in google. This is my work. For some reason this site does not like my link when I posted a while back.
If you look at the 5 fun page, there's so many years and varieties. The first step is to identify this was struck under the Gaeguk era which leads it to 1892 to 1896. This is definitely the small font variety so 1895 is not a likely candidate. The biggest hint is the space in between the dot and the character "Chosen". Because the gap is so large, the character "Great" has to be in there. This only leaves 1892 and 1896 as the likely candidate. But because there's so little of the detail left, it's more unlikely for the character "5" to be flattened during the overstriking process. Thus this is how I deduced it to be 1892 5 fun.
I've own a couple of very rare overstruck coins and they are much harder to tell - one of them took me a couple of years to understand what I was really looking at...
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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Hi gxseries - thank you again :) Wow your collection is beautiful!
I like contemporary counterfeits and I love how this one is so "bad" (so bad its awesome!). Given what I hear is a growing interest in this era of Chinese numismatics I think these coins are definitely going to increase in desirability.
Many collectors will never appreciate their beauty but there will be a group that will collect them avidly. I see this as well with the contemporary counterfeit Great Britain halfpennies.
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Brummagem is correct. You can see the faint "Great Joseon" and "Gaeguk Year 50X" on the obverse and part of the bow from the coin on the reverse. There are a lot of other small leftovers from the 5 Fun coin in there as well.
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