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The Weirdest Buy Ever! A 75th Anniversary Life Insurance Dupondius

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I quickly bought this for $10. Seller says he found in an estate sale. I should have the coin in hand tomorrow to get a closer look. I will post pics of the edge when I get it. It looks like Claudius but I haven't done the research on it yet.

It's a 1962 Provident Life and Accident Insurance Co 75th anniversary 1887-1962 commemorative Roman bronze Dupondius coin. I looked it up and there isn't anything like it so I'm guessing this is a one of a kind promo by the company.

Would be great if it is real but I'm not betting on it. I took a chance at that price. I looks good though


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Augustus struck under Tiberius, The coin looks genuine to me, also looks like it has be lacquered. Excellent find for $10.
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Thanks for the reply and the attribution. Yeah, it didn't jump right out as a fake to me.
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Nice find!
Things that make me believe it's real:
1. The reverse of the coin doesn't match the drawing in the leaflet.
2. The coin is off-center and irregularly shaped. Most people expect coins to be round and centered. If you are going to make copies, why not copy a better example?
3. Pitting is what I would expect from environmental damage.

Even if it's fake it's quite the conversation piece.
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@TC, that would be a great pick-up if it is real!
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jskirwin - Nice points! Also the box is a custom fit to the coin and you would probably see more than one of these dished out to employees 55 years ago.
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Really a great buy, especially considering the promotional tie in.
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Nice grab!

I don't think "problem" ancients were especially valuable 50+ years ago, so I could see the company getting real ones for the promo. I have a few ASE's that my parents picked up from a Honda promo event back in the early 2000s--it was a free event and everyone got one, but they were only worth like $5 at the time.
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The dream is over. As soon as I opened it, there it was "Replica". With the coin in hand, you can tell. The edge is as smooth as a baby's butt and there's is a also a faint casting seem. I still think it's a great buy for 10 bucks.




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Oh well...

I sort of figured that was the image of the last life insurance policy they paid out on without a fight.
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Proof of the limitations of photographs and false assumptions.

Seller should have mentioned it was a replica given how the word appears in the first line of the handout he included in the photographs. Assuming this was on ebay you likely have a case for getting your money back if you so desire.
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The dream is over. As soon as I opened it, there it was "Replica". With the coin in hand, you can tell. The edge is as smooth as a baby's butt and there's is a also a faint casting seem. I still think it's a great buy for 10 bucks.
I agree. It is still a 55 year old item.
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I didn't want to spoil the fun for you so I waited until you had it in hand.
As soon as I saw it I fully expected it to be a replica produced by one of the companies who do them for museums etc.
I have a few and contrary to what someone else said, they copy " rough " coins not shiny perfect ones.
WRL are one company but they stamp their replicas, I will dig a couple out for you later.
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jskirwin, I agree, he should have said it was a replica. But he seller deals with all estate sale stuff, so I just think he didn't think twice about the posting it. The title of the ebay listing was "Vintage Imperial Dupondius Coin - 1887-1962 Provident Life & Accident Insurance" so I think it was harmless.

I'm going to keep it, great buy for a replica.
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