Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V2.0)

Bumping this thread to remind folks that we are looking for a coin minted in the decade of the 1140s AD.

I believe the rules require a coin to have a date range of no more than ten years for the thread to proceed. That said, it's a very interesting piece and I'm glad to see it.

@Kushanshah, yes very nice coin and I'm glad you posted it, but unfortunately for the purposes of this thread, the date range is a bit too broad. According to the rules that I set up at the start (which were based on the first version of this thread started by @medieval), coins need to be dateable to a ten year time-span, although I think that we may have already let one with an 11 year time-span pass.

@numisma, proposing that the majority of the ten-year time span be in the "correct" decade is a pretty interesting wrinkle, but I hope that you don't mind if we stay the course on this thread and keep it as being in whichever decade the time span begins. I'm fine with this thread proceeding by fits and starts or even spurring us to expand our collections!

I have a couple coins that were minted over a 14 year time span beginning in the 1140s. If we get desperate for progress, then I'm kinda thinking that the best route will be to expand our definition of a "decade".

As this thread has recently dropped off of the front page in the ancients/medievals section of CCF, it is probably time for another bump. As a reminder, we are looking for coins minted in the decade of the 1140s.

By way of example of a coin that might have been minted in the correct decade, but can't move us backward as the date range is too large, here is a Tari from Norman Sicily. It was minted in Siqilliya between 1140 and 1154 AD and is attributed as Biaggi 1220. It was one of my first gold coins and that total number remains stubbornly small even to this day.

I've done a little digging for information and the bracteates of Friedrich I von Wettin see to be the only relatively available pieces that meet our criteria. They are a bit spendy (and even were back in 1977 when Dr. Bonhoff's collection was auctioned (a particularly nice example was listed at 500 DM).

I have also looked more closely at the first version of this thread and found that there were some decades where the "decade = ten years" rule was stretched a bit, even beyond the 11 years that we have already used on this thread. For example, the coin used to move that thread beyond the 1140s was a Byzantine Half-Tetarteron minted between 1143 and 1180 AD.

At this point, we have been stuck on the decade of the 1140s since April 10, 2018. As we are now approaching the two month mark, I'm wondering what folks would like to do:

1. Expand our definition of "decade" to include 15 years, in which case we can move forward.

-or-

2. Keep to our current definition and wait for someone to show up with a coin minted for 11 years or less, starting in the decade of the 1140s.

I tend to be a bit of a stickler for rules, but this is tempered by my wish to keep this thread a vibrant part of the ancients and medievals section of CCF. Please respond with your preference in the next few days and I'll go with the majority vote.

I know that I've seen multiple coins of Stephen and/or Matilda posted on CCF before. Surely some of them should be from the 1140s, especially of Matilda (reigned 1141-1147).

And, for the record, I'm in favor of waiting until an applicable coin appears. Seriously, it had barely been a month. Didn't we wait even longer for an 1170s coin before my example happened to show up?

(As for the old thread: it arrived at the 12th century shortly after Medieval's never-explained disappearance, and at least one of the thread's interim caretakers didn't really get the point of "waiting until an applicable coin is posted" and tried their best to advance a decade every day. I tried to complain at the time, apparently, but it doesn't look like anybody noticed.)

All have good points. So far we are 2:1 in favor of loosening our definition of a decade. Looking for some more votes from others.

I have several Bela II Denars 1131-41,but that would fit in the 1130's decade.