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Thoughts On This 1854 O Half Dollar?

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Almost looks like someone tried to anodize or heat treat it? I think it looks authentic but off. The color is weird. Cant tell whats going on with the date, almost looks doubled.
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Joe, Yes you are correct on the date, it is a known variety of the 1854 O Half (WB-101, WB1).

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I agree about the hazy look on the reverse (like puffed clouds). It's likely the result of the coin being dipped too much. Someone got greedy and messed up perfectly nice coin.
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OMG, guys! @MikeP, You will never hear the end of it until this coin is in a TPG holder. This is called the pile-on effect. Why does it happen? Because everyone else is saying so and folks view it as an easy, safe bet to boost post count with little risk of looking like a moron.
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Something is not right. That reverse color looks rather hazy, almost like it has been dipped many times.


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You will never hear the end of it until this coin is in a TPG holder.


Exactly. I believe that the coin will get a Details grade. The TPG may think of it as market acceptable, but it's still dipped in my opinion.

I want to see it in a TPG holder.
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Something is not right. That reverse color looks rather hazy, almost like it has been dipped many times.


That's exactly what you're looking at - an overdipped coin which has been retoned. It's a poster child for the effect, one of the better examples I've seen posted in the last 15 years.
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new pics show the same thing the original pictures showed. cleaned and retoned.
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Looks to be a cast counterfeit....raised areas in the fields are a dead give away. Toning is suspicious, too.
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That was my first take smalldawg but it has some definite characteristics for the variety that I doubt would be apparant on a cast.

It could be whizzed.

Plus I just added to my ever important post count!!
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Looks to be a cast counterfeit....raised areas in the fields are a dead give away.


I don't think it's a counterfeit...

But it does look like it has been dipped, and maybe the toning is AT. I want to see what a TPG thinks of it.
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I can't tell, so is this a fake or not. Looks weird to me?
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This one graded Unc Details - Cleaned
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Really appreciate that you have come back to update us with the TPG grades. You make this forum so much more valuable with your thoughtful follow up.
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Glad you sent it in for grading. Looks like the TPG graded it accurately. I just couldn't see this example straight grading with the lack of luster and the "cleaned" look.
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