Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection! Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Shop CCF Members on eBay! Specializing in Modern Numismatics








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

2009-S Proof Lincoln Cents

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 3,073Next Topic
Page: of 2
Moderator
Learn More...
John1's Avatar
United States
56855 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2018  1:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Are all S mint copper, or are some zincolns? I am thinking about getting a four piece set slabbed in PR69. I am trying to get all four for less than $30.
John1
Rest in Peace
Crazyb0's Avatar
10197 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2018  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All are copper John. Have an extra one out of a proof set if you want to buy it.
Moderator
Learn More...
John1's Avatar
United States
56855 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2018  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks but looking for a set of four. So all S mint are copper?
John1
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187446 Posts
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2018  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, agree.
Moderator
Learn More...
John1's Avatar
United States
56855 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2018  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all.
John1
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187446 Posts
Rest in Peace
moxking's Avatar
United States
17900 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2018  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let us know what you find, John. At some point my type set will go beyond 64.
Pillar of the Community
BadDog's Avatar
United States
1374 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2018  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are copper, but I've found some of them look like this
2009-S-Proof-Lincoln-Cents
where it looks like they're zinc.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187446 Posts
Pillar of the Community
BadDog's Avatar
United States
1374 Posts
 Posted 02/08/2018  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not all of them do, but take a look at bottom part of the top middle cent and you'll see that it is nickel colored rather than copper colored. IMHO it makes the coin look like its struck on a zinc planchet that was poorly plated with copper.

I've seen several coins like this and I'm not entirely sure what causes it. I'm guessing that the alloy composition of the planchet that this coin was struck on wasn't as homogenous as is should have been.

These planchets are 95% copper and 5% tin/zinc and this alloy mixture should result in an appearance like the other 3 coins in this set, but sometimes that 5% is showing through more than it should.
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
CelticKnot's Avatar
United States
12804 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  01:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good discussion.

I see what you're talking about on the top coin but I think we need a different (or more detailed) explanation. Are you suggesting that there could be blobs of zinc in the alloy that got squished to the faces during minting?
Rest in Peace
Crazyb0's Avatar
10197 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All are shadows of reflected portions of the cameo,like facets of a diamond.
Bedrock of the Community
GR58's Avatar
United States
11951 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't forget, the 2009 P and D Lincoln's from the mint set are
also copper.

Mintage 784,614 for mint set coins, 2009 S mintage 2,995,615 for proofs.

And the mint coins have satin finish ...
Pillar of the Community
BadDog's Avatar
United States
1374 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
All are shadows of reflected portions of the cameo,like facets of a diamond.


Perhaps, but if they're reflections then I'd expect the look to change as the coin is rotated in hand and it does not. Like I said, I don't know what the cause is, but I still suspect some kind of planchet defect.

Again, at least to me, the appearance of these coins could be mistaken and lead one to believe that they were struck on a zinc planchet with improper copper cladding, even though they are not. I guess the point is that I wouldn't recommend buying these coins site unseen.

Here are some other examples
2009-S-Proof-Lincoln-Cents
2009-S-Proof-Lincoln-Cents
2009-S-Proof-Lincoln-Cents
2009-S-Proof-Lincoln-Cents
BTW, I got all of these from the same ebay seller. They were shipped to me loose in a baseball card sleeve

I couldn't believe it. I didn't return them because I didn't want them sold to someone else. Needless to say negative feedback was left
Edited by BadDog
02/09/2018 10:13 am
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187446 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Not all of them do, but take a look at bottom part of the top middle cent and you'll see that it is nickel colored rather than copper colored. IMHO it makes the coin look like its struck on a zinc planchet that was poorly plated with copper.
Ah, okay, I get it now.

I think it is because bronze (95% copper) tones differently than plating (100% copper).
  Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 3,073Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.4 seconds to rattle this change. Forums