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Can We Post A Complete Commemorative Collection?

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I want to like the Elgin piece but so many I've seen are very flat -- I'd love to see more details in the hat/hair on the obverse in particular.


I'm putting on my MS classic silver commemorative collector hat for this reply ...

One of the many challenges faced with collecting the MS classic silver set is getting to know and understand the individual characteristics of all 50 coins in the type set .. not to mention the variability in the multi-year issued examples which make up the 144 coin set.

This is not Lincoln Cents 1909 - 1929 ... where the basic design was repeated over and over ... each coin in this series is unique to itself and presents great opportunity for collecting fun and education.

To your point on the Elgin ... get it ... but nowhere is there an Elgin in any grade that shows the crisp details that are common (expected) on modern commemorative.

The lovely MS66 example shown above is as good as it gets for strike quality ... the issue is not strike but the design of the coin itself ... the details were simply not there in the beginning.

I drove myself bonkers when I first explored the MS set trying to find 'well struck' examples ... my issue at the time was the 1936 Long Island Half ... I needed to see details on the ship sails on the reverse ... finally came to accept there were none to see and simply moved on to acquire a choice example.

All that said ... there are indeed coins in the classic silver set where strike quality can matter ... and as a collector your challenge is to educate yourself on which ones those are ... and accept this Elgin example for what it is.
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Thank you, nickelsearcher, I expected that would be the case. Perhaps I should rephrase as "I wish it were struck with sharper details". As it is, this will likely remain on my long list until/unless I find one that really catches my eye.
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Good points, all, Nickelsearcher.

Your comment on the Long Island is so true. I probably looked at 200 in the 65-67 grade range and finally found a strike that was acceptable, but not strong, even then.

The Elgin is pretty common in all grades, but the one shown above was also the best strike I could find.

Some of the "common" CSC, especially in the 1934-1937 date ranges are just horrible for strike. The good part is that most collectors don't seem to pay attention to anything other than grade, so you can buy a better strike for no additional cost.
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I'm really enjoying seeing and reading what everyone has to share. It's going to be awhile before I can post my own again, but thanks everyone for sharing their coins and knowledge.

Great seeing the circulated coins - thanks @nickelsearcher for the honest examples!
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... each coin in this series is unique to itself and presents great opportunity for collecting fun and education


The bold text is why I collect these. I really like the series for the variety, and in most cases, I find the designs to be interesting, unique, and some equally as wonderful as some can be boring.

But each one has something to offer, and I really enjoy the set. It boggles my mind why they aren't the most popular set, as they have so much to offer.

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I'm still several days from having something else to post again, but I'm getting a lot of out this thread along the way. Doing these alphabetically seemed like a strange choice but we are getting a good mix of moderns and classics so the changes in style and technique are more clear.
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I would have been so bummed if JBuck didn't contribute Ike.
Just as I would have been bummed it GR58 had not posted all of his.
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2000 Leif Ericson UNC
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The Leif Ericson is a nice design - thanks @GR58. I wouldn't mind adding this to my collection. But why was Leif Ericson being commemorated? Was something being supported? I mean, I know his history, but why this choice over so many others?
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I think the thought is ...

He made it to North America around 1000 AD ....

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GR58 nailed it. Although we can't be certain of the exact date, or even decade, most historical explorations have posited his landing some time around 1000 AD.
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I like that the Ericson looks nothing like what a traditional US coin looks like.
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I actually looked at prices on ebay for this issue, and I was utterly amazed at the price differences presented. Neither the proof nor the mint state seems excessively expensive unless you have to have 70. Then you could get a very nice TPG large cent, or Two Cent, or 3CN or 3CS, and the list goes on - for that price.

I have to say that putting this into a MSC (Modern Silver Commemorative) almost REQUIRES you to get the beautiful Icelandic two coin silver set of the same date.

I've never wondered about other countries that might have issued commems about the same thing we were commemorating. But it might be an interesting areas of study.

Anyone done such a comparison?
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Power is back and so am I! So this Columbian I saw for $100.00 and it was one of those coins that I was really attracted to as most have been cleaned or have ugly toning. If you have ever opened a true original roll of Walking Liberty half dollars, this is what I have had many look like. Bright white middle with gold around the edges. The marks on the front right obverse are actually grease streaks. I thought about cracking this out to remove them but really don't mind them that much. Some chatter on the reverse sail but loved the fields and originality. As with most coins I have, they look nicer in hand than in my poor photos!


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