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New South Wales Dump Advice Please

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 Posted 06/07/2008  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mjones32 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great info - thanks everyone. If the coin is VG, then I at least have a ball park for understanding the value. I guess I'm just going to take my time and understand this coin properly.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  08:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a very nice one too, no matter what condition :)

Suprized you have one in the US
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 Posted 06/07/2008  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mjones32 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I'm a brit actually , simply live in the US and the coin was collected in South Wales. My grandfather was in business and made a habit of chucking any duds and curios into a tin box. So I've got a lot of stuff like trade tokens and bun pennies in there and I'm trying to catalogue and value them.

This one hit me between the eyes though !
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 Posted 06/07/2008  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justabeginner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your grandpa is a smart smart man.. LOL.... But Spedward, if your whole penny collection included the 1930, I don't think you would wanna trade it for a Dump.. LOL..... Welcome to the forum..
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 Posted 06/07/2008  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...the coin was collected in South Wales...

Now that's irony. A scarce coin from New South Wales finding it's way around the world and ending up in Old South Wales.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zaggy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ummm, two words jump to mind here..

F@ck Me!
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 Posted 06/07/2008  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
but it doesn't and never will include the 1930 pennny, yes Zaggy.... happy birthday for yesterday anyway!
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 Posted 06/07/2008  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Very nice coin,
The Dump is at the very top of my Wish list. Not only is the coin valuable but it has a fantastic story and place in Australian History. Well done.

I wouldn't be keeping it in a tin anymore ;)
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 Posted 06/07/2008  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The holey dollar is at the top of mine!
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 Posted 06/07/2008  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A holey dollar would go great with the dump. Even better if you can find the matching pair!
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 Posted 06/08/2008  02:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes, they'd fit inside each other! But who has that.. seriously..
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 Posted 06/08/2008  05:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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A holey dollar would go great with the dump. Even better if you can find the matching pair!


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yes, they'd fit inside each other! But who has that.. seriously..

Actually, they wouldn't fit inside each other. The Holey Dollar has had the rim of the hole compressed with the counterstamp, which would make the hole smaller. At the same time, the Dump has been compressed in a collarless press, making it larger. A Dump can't fit inside a Holey Dollar unless they've been clipped.

As for finding a "matched pair", it's very, very unlikely. The Dump was ground flat prior to striking, and traces of the original coins are rarely still visible.

Add to this the tiny survival rate of both coins (original mintages were 40,000 of each) and it's fairly unlikely that a surviving Dollar will still have its matching Dump.
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 Posted 06/08/2008  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
true
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 Posted 06/08/2008  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, welcome! Glad youse guys know what you're talking about. Dumpy coins and holey dollars? You lost me. Time for research.
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 Posted 06/08/2008  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day Parklane,
the HD & Dump of 1813 are icons of Australian coinage.
There are less than 300 HD known to exist and the last one auctioned went for $200,000 or so: we can all dream.
For further reading, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holey_dollar
Peter in Oz
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