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Ring Marks On Jefferson Nickel

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 Posted 06/27/2008  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Mike,

That's a great explanation! Thank you!

It also makes perfect sense!

So, Let me see if I have this straight:

A blank die is being machined to impart the conical shape to it prior to hubbing.

The concentric lines are a result of that process. Still, prior to hubbing the blank die, the steel would normally be polished, removing the concentric lines.

The blank die somehow misses that part of the process and goes on to be hubbed.

The hubbing process does not obliterate the concentric lines as the die is being hubbed resulting in a die with concentric lines and a coin struck, like the one above.

I know it may seem repetitive, I just want to get the picture straight in my head:-0

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 06/27/2008  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You've got it.
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 Posted 06/27/2008  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Mike,

Thank You sir!

Bill

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 Posted 06/27/2008  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! I can't thank you guys enough for your wealth of information. I just started to collect and I'm ashamed to admit, I don't even really know how a coin is made. May be a good time to learn. Stupid question: If I were to label this coin on a coin holder, should I call it concentric lathe marks?

Thanks Again, Mike
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Yes, the generally accepted term is "concentric lathe marks".
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 Posted 06/28/2008  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice find
the only way it could be better is if it were still in a mint set
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 Posted 06/28/2008  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks amac44. I was thinking the same thing.

Mike
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amac44 said; "the only way it could be better is if it were still in a mint set"
Well I say; "the only way it could be better is if it were still in my set".
Thanks for the info.
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I've alway felt the lathe marks were deeper on the fields because the line are raised when the die material was made. With the marks that didn't get polished out being incuse on the die, the marks would appear raised on the coin. Kind of like why a doubled eyelid remains in the die. The device that formed that was set deeper into the die and the hubbing because of the pattern didn't remove that area. So a deeper hubbed impression would leave a raised area of the coins it creates. That is what I've figured what happened to create them.
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