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I searched a box of pennies a while back unfortunately they were all 2008. I did manage to find some with these marking on the coins. This is something that happened to the coin while it was being made but how did it happen?  Edited by Double Mint
06/19/2008 04:44 am
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Hi,
A larger and more clear picture would help. It appears though to be a coin struck through some kind of debris but a better picture is needed to get a better idea.
Thanks,
Bill
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Heres a couple more pics of a few different ones.   Edited by Double Mint
06/19/2008 04:45 am
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Wow! Save one for me! I have not seen this one.
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Are the marks raised or indented?
Edited by USArmyParatrooper
06/19/2008 04:40 am
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1913-V If this turns out to be and error (Which from your pics looks like its from the mint) I would call it one of two things.
1) GL, (GunShot Lincoln)
2) SL, (Sneazing Lincoln)
Edited by jeffreyice1
06/19/2008 06:50 am
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Could be a strike-thru error or a defective planchet. Hard to say without examining it under a microscope.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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1913-V If this turns out to be and error (Which from your pics looks like its from the mint) I would call it one of two things.
1) GL, (GunShot Lincoln)
2) SL, (Sneazing Lincoln) Or, 3) WSL (Watermelon seed Spitting Lincoln) But that must've been a lot of watermelon at one time. |
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Couldn't this just be post-mint damage received between when the coin left the die press and when it arrived in your hands?
- during bagging at the mint
- during transportation to the reserve
- during transportation to a coin sorting / wrapping facility
- during sorting stage
- during the wrapping stage
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It could be post-strike damage. I'd need a much larger photograph with higher resolution to be sure. However, I have seen a very similar cent which was some sort of planchet error.
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What would you look for to differentiate between post-mint and planchet or strike-through damage?
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My additional thoughts since all the coins are marked identically (note the positions of the marks are identical on each coin) is that their is something that either damaged the die or there was some debris that adhered to the die imparting the same marks to each coin.
I lean more toward my "debris stuck to the die" theory as that would create indented marks on the coin.
Only after seeing several pictures including at least three coins can I surmise that the die did the deed:-)
Interesting...
Thanks,
Bill
Edited by foundinrolls
06/19/2008 2:08 pm
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Hi Seattle,
In answer to your question, the odds of the identical damage happening on many coins is pretty low. Keep in mind that based upon the pictures, whatever this is , left identical marks. The pattern of impressions is the same on each coin.
It's not something general, like scrapes from a counting machine that can look similar but are actually different in each case.
It is not likely to be a damage after the coins left the Mint. It is more likely something that the die did during each strike.
Still not entirely conclusive but I think what I suggest is moving in a good direction.
Thanks,
Bill
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06/19/2008 2:17 pm
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Looks like I didn't read his post well enough - I missed the fact it's occurring on -multiple- coins. I agree now that signs would point to it being damage that occur while at the mint.
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Actually no one has said that there were multiple coins with the same marks. He said Quote:
I did manage to find some with these marking on the coins So the question is were there multiple coins with the exact same markings, or multiple coins with similar markings? There is a big difference. Multiple coins with the exact same marks would eliminate defective planchet or post strike damage, and leave possible strike through. (a damaged die would be possible but doubtful since what would damage the die and leave raised lumps on it?) Multiple coins with similar marks would eliminate a damaged die, but still leave strike throughs and post strike damage as possibilities. One problem I see with post strike damage is the surfaces of the coin have an even frostyness If it was damage I would expect to see a scraping and shiny surface in the indentations. These may show that but it isn't clear on the pictures. |
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