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How Far Back Can We Go? Fifth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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mahudi = 2 shahi
mint: Huwayza (southwest of Iran)
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Local Type of Khuzistan
Ruler: Abas II (AH1052-1077 / 1642-1666AD)
Born as: Sultan Muhammad Mirza (1632-1666AD)
7th shah of the Safavid dynasty
A-2650.2
KM # 187 or 188
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Medal on the mandate of Philippe Vander Stegen, first treasurer in 1641 and 1642
description 1 token; 30 mm.
bronze
topic: Coat of arms of Philippe Vander Stegen BRKZ
literature:
note R.B.N. 1905, p. 323, No. 21
Dugniolle III-IV: p. 287 No. 3971
Van Orden I: pr. 1232
obverse: TANTVM. CALCARIBVS. OPVS. 1642.
The weapon of first treasurer Philippe Vander Stegen, with a decorated helmet above it.
revrese: SALVS / EX / INIMICIS
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Quote:
Stettin, Pommerania, under Swedish occupation

I really like that coin - portrait is exceptional sharp

here is a curiosity: a 1642 city taler from Augsburg, mounted in an original contemporary setting that seems to have prevented any damage to the coin; this piece also has the right obv / rev orientation for mounting

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1642 -- Principality of Orange, Double Tournois:
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1641 Gaston d'Orleans, Dombes, France

Double Tournois

small head
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1641 France Louis XIII

Jeton honoring Louis, Dauphin of France (future Louis XIV)
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1641 -- Archduchy of Austria, 3 kreuzer:
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1641 Queen Christina of Sweden

Riksdaler
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1/4 Riksdaler
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Riksdaler
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Thaler, Pomerania under Swedish Occupation

double struck
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Here is a 2 Marien-Groschen from the German State of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel dated AD 1641:



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1/4 ÖRE, Sweden, 1640

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1 leeuwen daalder
1640
Gelderland
MO.ARG.PRO.CO.FOE.BELG.GEL
moneta argentea provinciae confoederatiae Belgium Gelriae
silver money from the confederate Belgian provinces, Gelderland
CONFIDENS * DNO * NON * MOVETVR
confidens domino non movetur
steady faith in the lord
without '+' after GEL
Delmonte 825; Verkade 11.1; Dav. # 4849
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Here is a Double Tournoi from the French Principality of Orange dated AD 1640:



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Double Tournois

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"Principality of Orange" sent me scurrying off to do some research since we've seen a couple of coins now, and I knew that today Orange is a small city in Provence (France) much involved with the wine industry.
The House of Nassau-Orange came about from the 1515 marriage of Henry III of Nassau-Breda to Claudia of Chalon-Orange (so we see this family holding land in four places: Nassau (Germany), Breda (today's Netherlands), Chalon (Burgundy) and Orange (Provence). Their nephew, William was the first to use the combined title Orange-Nassau, and was a key figure in the Dutch struggle for independence of the late 1500s (I think we will see some jetons on this topic in September).
Orange, though comprising only about 100 square miles (280 sq km) was elevated from a county to a principality in 1163. As part of Orange-Nassau territory, it was sympathetic to Protestants during the religious wars of the 16th and 17th centuries, and was invaded frequently by the French. It finally became part of France in 1713. Coincidentally, its neighbor was the Comtat Venaissen, a Papal State, which became part of France even later, in 1795.
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Great info Tdziemia, thanks for sharing.
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