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How Far Back Can We Go? Fifth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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With additional research ...
Ferdinand was dead by 1659 which tends to rule out that date as well.
A web search turns up this type as minted in Glatz (Silesia), 1637-40. Is that how you have it attributed?

Yet another place in central Europe I've never heard of
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do we have a break at 1638?
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1638 Queen Christina of Sweden

1 Öre (43 mm)
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Ok thx for the confirmation that yesterday's coin is a 1639--that was what I purchased it as being about 10 years ago.

For today, I have a 2 Kreuzer of the German City State of Hanau-Munzberg dated AD 1638:

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1638 -- Archbishopric of Salzburg, 1/9 thaler:
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3 Kreuzer (Groschen) 1637, Ferdinand II
Ferdinand died February the 15th that year.

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Archduchy of Austria -- 3 kreuzer, 1637:
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1 thaler = 48 penny
1637
lion thaler
MO.ARG.PRO.CON FOE.BELG.WEST
moneta argentea provinciae confoederatiae Belgium West Frisiae
silver money from confederate Belgian provinces, West Friesland
CONFIDENS * DNO * NON * MOVETVR
confidens domino non movetur
steady faith in the lord
mint mark: Lily
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1637 Bishopric of Liege, Ferdinand of Bavaria

Daalder of 30 patards
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Here is an Austrian 3 Kreuzer dated AD 1637:

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1637 thaler, Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel, Zellerfeld mint.

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Token ("Gildepenning") from the Onze Lieve Vrouwekerk (the cathedral of Our Lady) in Antwerp, Belgium

Obv. M A R - MEDIATRIX NOSTRA
Rev. TLOF - ANNO . INCARNATIONIS . DNI . 1636

a somewhat enigmatic token, not a jeton but a mereau, (but still listed in Dugniolle); what was the exact role of this token?
a charity penny for the poor to buy bread?
item of membership of a guild? the major guilds had their own chapel in medieval churches

references: Dugn.3911, Minard-Van Hoorebeke, Antw 66; J De Beer, RBN 1930 pag 22, n°147, De Renesse 32810

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Not that your token isn't very nice @1c5, but that wildman Thaler that @jgenn posted is really awesome! As I recall we had a wildman thread going a couple years back.

Here is a 2 Liards from the French Duchy of Bouillon & Sedan dated AD 1636:


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but that wildman Thaler that @jgenn posted is really awesome


attractive tone !
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Always have wanted to assemble a wild man collection
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