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 Posted 06/29/2008  05:08 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jackool to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone,

Let me start by introducing myself, my name is Simon, but I am usually known as Jacko or Jackool.
I have been a member here for a while now, and I have been learning heaps from you all.

Now, I have had this coin for ages, and have not been able to let myself settle with it just being a misstrike. The reasons for this:
Firstly, the coin is exactly the same size as any other 5c piece that I have challenged it against.
Secondly, as you will hopefully see, the Reverse is fairly normal (inc. rim Cud).
Thirdly, I have pitted a 1c against the obverse, and it seems to be pretty close.

Now I am not going to go jumping up and down making a fool of myself thinking that this could possibly be a mule, oh gosh I wish it was though, as I am still learning the numismatic game. I have been a student of coinage for about 24 out of my 28 years I would say. But I would still class myself as a novice. So in that vein, I am not going to make an outrageous claim. What I can do, however, is show you some pictures I have taken of it.

Obverse:
Image: Can-Someone-Please-Help-Me??? 05c1981SmallerObverse.jpg
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Reverse:
Image: Can-Someone-Please-Help-Me??? 05c1981SmallerObversereverse.jpg
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Please let me know if I am fooling myself thinking that it may be more than just a misstrike.
Thankyou.
Jacko
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 Posted 06/29/2008  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tiddyathome to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
second image is an infected file.
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 Posted 06/29/2008  05:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome Simon!

Just tried searching for one on this forum, google, and ebay. Nothing!

1981 One cents were made at 2 mints and 1981 5c made at 3 mints, both of them were made at the Australian and Wales mint, the 5c was also minted in canada.

So a mule is a possibility, It doesn't really look like a mis-strike to me, but I am inexperienced...

There are heaps of other Australians on this forum that could help out here..
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 Posted 06/29/2008  05:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
infected as in it doesn't work? it works for me.

The obverse looks like it has a double rim, the rev looks like a mis-strike?
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 Posted 06/29/2008  05:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, I've never bothered much with errors, so I accept that I'm a novice in this area:
but, I think you're onto something.
Peter
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 Posted 06/29/2008  05:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jackool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tiddyathome - The file works fine for me, I have the A.V. scanning constantly. The file seems fine from here.

Spedward - Thankyou, I have been serching it out for ages myself, and nadda... That's why I thought I would show my dillema to everyone here. I have just got a new camera too which I had been waiting to get so that I could post a piccie or two.
I have a few coins that make me scratch my head, and I will come to those in due time, but this is the most frustraiting and intriguing one to me. Only because I am so darn uncertain.
So once again, Thankyou.

Jacko
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 Posted 06/29/2008  05:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tiddyathome to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, my computer keeps telling me it is a 'treat' and infected file attached
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 Posted 06/29/2008  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jackool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Peter - G'day, Other than this, errors only really started jumping out at me when I joined this forum, and since then I have been error-mad. After finding out what a 'Rabbit' was, I found my first 5 rabbits all within a few weeks.
As for being onto something, I really hope so, it would be nice.

Jacko
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 Posted 06/29/2008  07:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Brissyboy might be the person who could perhaps shed some light on this. I know there are a few years where 5¢ have different sized reverses, but I don't think 1981 is one of those years.

I can't really see anything different from the pictures, apart from it being a bit off centre, but my eyesight is pretty crook.
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 Posted 06/29/2008  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no probs, I have 2 rabbit ears $1, one given to me and one I found :P
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 Posted 06/29/2008  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Nancy. Yes I have specialised a bit in the 1981 coinage. I think what you can see is a type of rim that quite a few years in the 80's had.

The only real way of telling if it is a mule 1c obverse/5c reverse, you have to measure the Queen's effigy. It is be slightly smaller for a 1c than for a 5c. Measure from the top to bottom and from left to right for the points closest to the rim/text. Do this for a normal 1981 1c, 1981 5c and your coin. Your coin does appear to be either the RAM or RM strike but I find the image a bit hard to see the finer details.

Wayne

Oh and welcome jackool
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06/29/2008 07:37 am
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 Posted 06/29/2008  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
there ya go!
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 Posted 06/29/2008  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Listen to your computer until you know why that is coming up, tiddyathome. I didn't open it either, thanks.
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 Posted 06/30/2008  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as I know there is no way of getting a virus from a jpeg file. There's no scripts, no way to execute it.
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 Posted 06/30/2008  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jackool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thankyou Nancy =o)

Brissyboy - How do I measure the effigy?, I mean, what tool would I use for that?, and where could I get one?
A mate suggested some tool from bunnings, but I have forgotten what it was.

I agree with you Learjet, atleast I can't think of anything jumping to mind about a picture virus. As you say no way to execute it.
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 Posted 06/30/2008  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What you need are some digital calipers, obtainable online or from a hardware or car parts store for $20 or less. A most excellent tool for a coin collector.
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