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2007 20¢ Date Varieties

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 Posted 01/29/2008  02:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Looks like I should not just have kept some nice 2007 20¢ coins and thrown the rest back but checked them all more closely.
Have a look at http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2007-20-cent...L3_W0QQitemZ a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/220195291511 target= _blank rel= nofollow 220195291511 /a QQihZ012QQcategoryZ111241QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem and tell me what you think.
I am going to have a closer look now at the ones I have.
And, we need some numbers to see if one variety is really scarce or if both relatively common.

Jeff
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 Posted 01/29/2008  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both are quite common, with the thin 7 being slightly more common. I think I've got something like 210 thick 7 & 280 thin 7. No need to rush out to find them, plenty for all I reckon.

Are you interested in the errors I've found in 2007 20¢?
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 Posted 01/29/2008  02:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Nancy. I am always interested in varieties (if not too obscure).

I think I need new glasses after checking accumulated 1981 20¢ for 3½ claws variety!

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There's a couple different errors I've picked up so far.

The platypus has the ouside claw of it's right foot almost completely missing, just a couple little knobs where the claw should be.
This occurs equally as often on both thick & thin 7 coins. It's just die fill, but pretty impressive.

Cuds on the back of HM's head, small cheek Cud, both occur on thick 7 coins.




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 Posted 01/29/2008  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
19 thin stroke 7 and 8 thick when I checked mine. So certainly looks like both varieties are common -two different mints?
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All Aussie circulation coins are minted at RAM, Canberra. Just 2 different obverse dies.
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Thanks Nancy.
"The platypus has the ouside claw of it's right foot almost completely missing, just a couple little knobs where the claw should be.
This occurs equally as often on both thick & thin 7 coins. It's just die fill, but pretty impressive.

Cuds on the back of HM's head, small cheek Cud, both occur on thick 7 coins."

Didn't find any of these errors but will keep an eye out -the filled claw sounds interesting.

I found an interesting claw just now -have a look at my new post and see what you make of it.

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Thank you very much nancy, the filled claw is certainly an impressive error.
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 Posted 05/06/2008  06:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mk I have 4 2007 20c, ill have a look for all 4
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At one stage, I had seen approx 400 x 2007 20¢ "thin 7" and 350 x "thick 7", so I doubt that there's going to be a shortage of either variety. I was keeping numbers, but stopped a while back.

I've been noodling around 25 per week.
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just finished going through my 2007 20 cent pieces, and results were 122 coins, 72 Thin 7's, 50 Thick 7's.
Errors on Thick 7's,
A)Blobs on the water lines top right of the reverse, a couple with many large Cuds, but mostly smaller Cuds on water line above and right of platty body, and on water line that cuts platty tail and 2.
B) Strong letter doubling on the obverse.
C) Blob back of HM hair.
Thin 7's
A) Skeleton claw (thanks Nancy )
B)Doubling from point of HM chin, under base of HM neck, to back of HM hair.

No cheek Cuds though, which was surprising, as you tend to find these quite often on other years. Will have to keep looking.
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A "skeleton claw" picture 2007 20¢, thin 7: Note the almost missing outside claw on the left foot near the designer's initials. This error also occurs on the Thick 7 coins.

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The Mint claims around 400,000 of the thick 7 variety only went into circulation while the rest are the thin 7 type. The Mint Sets all have the thick 7 while the Proof Sets have both thick 7 and thin 7 types. The thin 7 type was a new master die produced part way through production of 2007 issues using computer engraving techniques instead of just punching the 7 on to the die as they did for the thick 7 type.

However as Nancy and others have said, there is a lot of thick 7 coins in circulation, maybe 40% to the thin 7's 60% so it is possible the Mint has it wrong or they all were distributed to the few areas where we are finding them. I know other people who have not even seen a 2007 20c.

Would be interesting to see if both 7 types occur on the Lifesaver 20c in the Silver and Gold Proof sets.
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 Posted 05/10/2008  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looking at my 20c pieces from 2007. Only kept 4, chuck the rest back.

1 thick, 3 thin. No errors


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Found my first "thin 7" yesterday. Nice and polished no marks, very happy

Ben
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