Need Help If Possible (Id: Nuremberg Token And Palembang Tin Pitis)

First I believe is a Nuremberg Jeton, a copper counting token from about the 16th century. These were mass produced and worth next to nothing, but are cool items as a sideshow to a collection. They were necessities in the age where your average accountant had the equivalent of a third grade education.

Second appears to be a tin "pitis" from Indonesia - modeled on Chinese coins, but with a local variant of an Arabic inscription. 17th/18th centuries I believe? Worth only a couple dollars, although there are apparently rare varieties.

thank for the help with the tin pitis Palembang very resourceful and informative