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Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 10/20/2018 1:58 pm Next in line is the Half Rupee.... There were two types minted in silver 0.500.....5.83g / 24.0mm dia. Below the date reads, Hasht ANA = Eight Annas in Persian.. Coin 12...2nd Head...Kolkata Mint...KM-550a...32,897,926 (No Mintmark) Coin 13...2nd Head...Mumbai Mint....KM-550a...17,811,326 Mintmark,small dot/bead below lotus flower..see inset detail.. And to finish off the 1940 series is the One Rupee... Only one type was minted at Mumbai in silver 0.500...11.66g / 31.0mm dia Below the date reads, Yek rupiya = One Rupee in Persian.. The 1940 Rupee had a security edge opposed to the reeded edge of the 1/4 and 1/2 Rupees..See inset photo.. Coin 14...2nd Head..Mumbai mint...KM-556....153,120,002 Mintmark,small dot/bead below lotus flower..see inset detail.. Here is the full set.... Edited by Palouche 10/20/2018 2:20 pm Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7945 Posts	Posted 10/20/2018 4:04 pm Very unusual (and nice!) to see a "deep dive" like this on one year. I have some British India coins from the 1940s that date to my dad's service in WWII. I noticed that a couple of the cupronickel coins have brownish streaking on them as can also be seen on the reverse of your coins 5 and 8, and the obverse of coin 6. I am assuming this is a flaw in the underlying metal. Any ideas? Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 10/20/2018 5:08 pm Thanks tdziemia, Quote: I am assuming this is a flaw in the underlying metal Yes as far as I know its called woodgrain and is quite a common occurrence in the cupronickel coins of India. It is an error in the mixing of the metals used. http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v12n11a07.html Edited by Palouche 10/20/2018 5:31 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 07:20 am As per the title of the thread here is the extra... I have always had a soft spot for the portrait coins of the princely states, Here are two coins that were also minted in 1940 in Bahawalpur.... Bahawalpur was a Princely State of British India and later Pakistan from 1802-1955. After the independance of India in 1947 Bahawalpur remained an autonomous state until 1955 when it merged with Western Pakistan.... After the death of his father Mohammad Bahawal Khan V in 1907, Sir Sadiq Muhammad Khan V Abbasi became Nawab of Bahawalpur at the ripe old age of three.Until 1924 the state was governed on his behalf by the then president Sir Rahim Bakhsh. Muhammad Khan V became an officer in the British army fighting in the third Afghan war and also commanded forces in the Middle East during the Second World War...He died in London at the age of 61 in 1966.. Sadiq Mohammed Khan V 1/4 Anna 1940 Bronze 4.8g / 25.3 mm dia..Y# 13 Obverse..Bust of Sadiq Mohammed Khan V facing left wearing Fez, legend in English, AD date below. Reverse..Toughra with crescent & star. Legend in Persian, AH date left 1359, Value, legend in English below. Sadiq Mohammed Khan V 1/2 Pice 1940 Bronze 2.6g / 21.3 mm dia..Y# 12 Obverse..Bust of Sadiq Mohammed Khan V facing left wearing Fez, legend in English, AD date below. Reverse..Toughra with crescent & star. Legend in Persian, AH date left 1359, Value, legend in English below. Report this Post to the Staff
scopru Pillar of the Community United States 5029 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 08:58 am Palouche this is an fantastic educational thread you have put together. Thank you Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 1:08 pm Thanks scopru! The next set I will be showing is Victoria 1862... This series has a lot of variations and could keep a collector busy for years.. I will start to post in a few days...Paul Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7945 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 1:23 pm Quote: I have always had a soft spot for the portrait coins of the princely states When I was young, I also enjoyed collecting coins from the princely states. Maybe these won't come up if you are strictly staying on 1940, but if I recall correctly, Gwalior and Jaipur also have portrait coins in the 1940s (I used to have the Bahawalpur 1/4 anna. Your half pice is really in super condition!) Edited by tdziemia 10/21/2018 1:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 1:50 pm Thanks tdziemia! The 1/2 Pice is a lot better in hand with full lustre ...Alas photography is not my forte! Quote: Maybe these won't come up if you are strictly staying on 1940 At the end of each series I plan to show some Princely state coins, these wont be related to the series date... Gwalior is one of my favourites and probaly the next up... The next set up will be 1862 and as you probably know a minefield of variants and hopefully a few more questions...Paul Edited by Palouche 10/21/2018 1:51 pm Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7945 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 3:25 pm Quote: Gwalior is one of my favourites and probaly the next up... Then we'll be swapping the fez for the turban Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 10/23/2018 02:43 am The next set I will be showing is Queen Victoria 1862... After the Indian mutiny of 1857 the government of India was transferred from the East India Company to the crown and in 1877 Victoria became Empress of India... The first coins minted under the Crown were in 1862 and this series is a minefield of variations! First up is the lowest denomination the 1/12 Anna, Copper, depending on mint 2.10-2.17g..and 17.40/18.00mm dia..Edga Plain.. William Wyon was official chief engraver at The Royal Mint from 1828 until his death in 1851.. In 1862 there were three mints running, NOTE..The 1862 date was used without changing for 11 years so the next dated 1/12 Anna coin is 1874.. Mumbai (Bombay)..Minted 1/12 Anna coins from 1862-1889, Kolkata (Calcutta)..Minted 1/12 Anna coins from 1862-1901 Chennai (Madras)...Minted 1/12 Anna coins only for the 11 year run of the 1862 dated coin. There were two types of bust used from 1862-1876 using the legend QUEEN VICTORIA...In 1877 the legend changed to EMPRESS VICTORIA. Bust A..Front of dress has 4 1/3 Jabots(panels) with a flower at the centre of the bottom panel. Bust B..Front of dress has 4 Jabots (panels) with a flower to the right of the bottom panel. Reverse - the same reverse design was used for the entire series. In 1862 all three mints used Bust A only... The only distinguishing factor between the three mints is their diametre.. Kolkata..17.40/17.50 dia...Mintage 2,501,952 Mumbai...17.90/18.00mm dia..Mintage 2,999,380 Chennai..17.60/17.70 dia..Mintage 40,487,040 Note...Because of this factor its very difficult to know which coin your buying,especially on ebay, if the seller has not specified the exact diametre or KM reference, and even then they get it wrong! I had luck as my coin is from Mumbai,a much lower mintage. Coin Vic 1...Bust A..Mumbai Mint...KM-465...17.95mm dia..2,999,380 Report this Post to the Staff
scopru Pillar of the Community United States 5029 Posts	Posted 10/23/2018 08:13 am very interesting Palouche Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188770 Posts	Posted 10/23/2018 10:18 am Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 10/25/2018 04:19 am Thanks jbuck and scopru! Doesn't seem to be much interest in this thread will let it run a few more posts and see what happens.....Anyhow... Next denomination is the 1/2 Pice (1/128 Indian Rupee) This is an easy coin to attribute and collect, with no referenced variations... Only Minted in 1862 with legend VICTORIA QUEEN. The next 1/2 Pice minted was in 1885 with VICTORIA EMPRESS. Only minted in 1862 at two mints and the only distinguishing factor is the diametre and this is slight.... Kolkata (Calcutta)..KM-466.21.2/21.25mm....96,843,000..Edge Plain. Chennai (Madras)..KM-466...21.4mm...........6,400,000..Edge Plain. Coin Vic 2...Kolkata (Calcutta)..KM-466.21.2/21.25mm A nicely detailed coin.. Report this Post to the Staff
scopru Pillar of the Community United States 5029 Posts	Posted 10/25/2018 07:41 am Quote: Doesn't seem to be much interest in this thread will let it run a few more posts and see what happens. You have my interest so please keep it coming. I am really enjoying the education you are putting in this thread. Quote: Only minted in 1862 at two mints and the only distinguishing factor is the diametre and this is slight.... Interesting. Report this Post to the Staff
Arkie Pillar of the Community United States 2637 Posts	Posted 10/25/2018 08:10 am Let me say that I am greatly interested in this thread; I simply haven't had anything to say. Please continue your presentation. I do have some 1940 British Indian silver. I do not know if it would be appropriate to add to the thread. Edited by Arkie 10/25/2018 08:11 am Report this Post to the Staff
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