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Canada
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Such a shame that someone with such an established account doesn't know any better.. If it were a newish account you could possibly blame ignorance.... But this guy Come on..... The hologram has clearly been removed (and there's remnants of parts of it still visible). If you're going to do something like this, why the heck would you half butt the job? Item 192684440763 https://www.ebay.com/itm/192684440763  Edited by Wizard1 10/09/2018 11:46 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Canada
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Looks legit but damaged to me... Is there something I'm missing? -Oh wait.... 
Edited by Loruca 10/09/2018 11:07 pm
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Canada
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Quote: Such a shame that someone with such an established account doesn't know any better.. If it were a newish account you could possibly blame ignorance.... But this guy Come on..... This person seems to be into stamps more than bank notes. Is offering a good return policy. Could be a legitimate oversight. The reality is a currency grading service has certified a note like this one so why blame this person.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Do you think this note is a real error ?
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Valued Member
 Canada
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idk , he sells graded and ungraded notes, so imo it's hard to claim oversight. Personally if I'm not 100% sure an error is legit, I would NOT even attempt to put it up for sale
The holograms are printed onto the substrate in one pass, it would be highly unlikely such spotty/patchy print would only show up at the top portion and be blank on the bottom.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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I did this in about 10 minutes.  Plus another 5 minutes. Look familiar? 
Edited by Wizard1 10/11/2018 12:29 am
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Valued Member
Canada
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Quote: Do you think this note is a real error ? There was a great discussion a while ago on this forum about the ease with which the hologram could be removed with some chemicals. I'll try to dig the post out. I believe that the Charlton GPMC does not consider the missing hologram on Frontiers Series Notes as a valid error as it can be easily duplicated.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Looks like the item went *poof*. Thank god
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Valued Member
Canada
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Do you know if it is the only part of the note that can be removed ?
regent LM59 Canadian paper money society
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Serial numbers are even easier to remove on poly notes, there are a few 100 floating around with no serial just had to experiment when the 100 notes were issued
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Valued Member
Canada
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Do you know if it is removed with the same product
Regent LM59 Canadian paper money society
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pure acetone will do it, but maybe illegal to deface currency
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Valued Member
Canada
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thanks john, I will keep that for me.
regent LM59 Canadian paper money society
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Quote: Serial numbers are even easier to remove on poly notes, there are a few 100 floating around with no serial just had to experiment when the 100 notes were issued Quote: Pure acetone will do it, but maybe illegal to deface currency I am not sure where this comes from. But Polymer notes have one additional element on it which will make removal of serial number or for that matter any other element obvious. This is called a varnish. Every polymer note has one on both sides except for on the metallic part of the hologram. So if you remove any ink from the polymer you will remove the varnish. And this will show because the ink on the polymer without the varnish makes the ink look dull. I would love for anyone to show me ink removed from polymers without affecting the varnish. To see what the varnish looks like see around the polymer and you will see a clear pattern. If you are interested to learn more about the varnish please read this paper in the Canadian Paper Money Journal Varnish Coating - More Than Protection, CPMS Journal, Issue 152/Vol. 53, 2017/03/01, 4 -5. And I am note sure where the legality about the defacing of currency comes from? Is this in the Canadian Criminal Code or the Bank of Canada Act?
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