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So, kaikun, YOUR post: http://goccf.com/t/324393Quote:
I recently purchased this coin in a local auction house... purchased from a Norweigan coin company called Samlerhuset, which is simular to the NGC company expect they don't use slabs or coins holders. Underneath is a photo of all the things that I received along with the coin including the box with the ''Samlerhusets'' logo. Is this enough fact to say that the coin is real? or does it require more proof to claim that the coin is legitimate? OK, so YOU are buying some... ***EDIT - And, confirmed, you DID just buy that piece (not that you said otherwise!)... which, hey, is fine: tradera.com/item/344695/315265505/-silver-8-reales-1783-fran-el-cazador-limited-edition-fran-samlerhuset- Then this post: http://goccf.com/t/327784Quote:
I have no idea what kind of coin this is or even what country it is from... Now, you're obviously from either Sweden or Norway... and you indicated in your other posts that you know a good portion of your coins ARE Swedish... AND, though you're, um, just a young 16-year-old chap, you aren't so busy Instagramming that you're capable enough to be familiar with auction buying... So you're seriously going to pretend that you couldn't decipher/figure out: "GUSTAF IV ADOLPH SV G OCH V KONUNG" YOU'RE SCANDINAVIAN AND DON'T KNOW GUSTAVUS ADOLPHUS?! Come on, that's not believable AT ALL........ -------------- I do actually think most/all of what you're posting is genuine. And also, those natural pictures (as opposed to the cropping, Photoshopping, etc.) show the coins much more accurately... However, please just cut it out with the nonsense made up stories. If you say "I just bought this expensive daler last month"... OK, fair enough. Will that make some amateurs automatically more likely to reflexively say "Oh, well, um, you know, there are a lot of fakes out there - did you test it with a magnet and a Magic 8 Ball?". And will it make people like me grumble that you need to sometimes do more of your OWN research? Yes, and yes. And sometimes, with the fake thing, it may in fact be correct - there are TONS out there, more/better year by year, and you NEED to know that if you plan to be a "coin person". But nonetheless, wait to see what everyone says... and realize sometimes not enough people are even going to be familiar enough with early-modern Scandinavian (or early-modern European coinage in general) to really get a solid consensus. Edited by realeswatcher
10/15/2018 10:53 pm
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NOTE: to moderators:
I mistakenly made what I thought were two legitimate replies to this old 1721 coin topic, but I didn't pay attention enough to see the topic was split and continued in this thread.
Please, if you can, move the pair of my most recent posts from that thread to this thread. The photos show the original 1721 coin plus the 1721 coin as seen in the accumulation of coins in the box.
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So, OK, I'll play... You may know that there is a stronger market for Norwegian pieces (especially mid 1800's and earlier daler-types) relative to Swedish coinage... that oil money!!
Is there any older Norway silver mixed in there?
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Looks like a nice collection  . I see you still have that 1886 Morgan dollar in the same 2X2 (6th picture down, lower right hand corner) - you asked about it's condition almost a year ago, and seemed EF was not the correct grade.. Most everyone said it was a MS66 - I don't TPG many coins but I sure would have sent that one in for grading! Edited by Mark1959
10/15/2018 6:49 pm
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I don't really know what to make of the rather abrupt and crude responses in this topic.  Edited by SilverDollar2017
10/15/2018 7:18 pm
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Do you read the World subforum a lot?
What you should make of it that it's justified cynicism based on experience.
Read through the incongruities in what he has said about the source of the coins, his knowledge level, etc. in his various posts. It sets off the BS meter on various levels.
So, for myself, I'm just saying cut the tall tales and be straight.
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@kaikun2001, please accept my apology. I do not doubt that you have the coins that you have been posting although I am still puzzled about why you pretend to know so little about them.
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Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts, After long consideration I have decided to no longer upload anything from this account from this day forward. Just for the best so everyone can be happy
Edited by kaikun2001
10/16/2018 2:31 pm
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I don't really know what to make of the rather abrupt and crude responses in this topic.  Quote:
Do you read the World subforum a lot? I do and some of the recent posts remind me of the other coin site and the reason I stopped going there. Quote:
After long consideration I have decided to no longer upload anything That is too bad. I hope you reconsider. I was looking forward to seeing more individual coins you had. Although, I can certainly understand why you came to that conclusion. Good job guys.  |
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This poster plays games - don't coddle them. I don't know why they're doing it, but if you don't see that, you're not paying attention. You seriously don't detect a sum total of silliness in what we've heard? Keep in mind he started posting almost (2) full years ago!!: In the recent thread, we're told:http://goccf.com/t/330954"Thank you thisistheshow, I actually received this collection from my father and grandfather, I'm currently exploring the world of collecting coins although I'm only 16..." ... hmmm, but he was buying coins back in Dec. 2016:http://goccf.com/t/276702"I bought the coin in Lübeck from a small coin store for 2 € I was really surprised by the price of the coin because it was so cheap normally these coins are much more pricier" http://goccf.com/t/327414"Hi I bought this coin a couple of days ago, at a antique store For only 30 dollars." http://goccf.com/t/284347Posts a stock photo of a gold 20 Kroner, asks if it's copper? Baffling post...http://goccf.com/t/298271"No I did not know it was a 3 Daler coin the only thing I knew about the coin was that it might be a Swedish coin of some sort. I received this coin from my dad a long time ago on my birthday, I think he might have bought the coin at a local auction house somewhere in Sweden or Denmark" "...there used to be a needle at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock. A few minutes ago I spoke to my father and asked about the coin, and he said that there used to be a needle at 12 o'clock and at 6 o'clock so he fixed the letters S and L himself." ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !http://goccf.com/t/276800"I never knew it was a swedish 2 ore coin" -- COIN READS "2 ÖR" IN HUGE LETTERS - so how is that possible?!http://goccf.com/t/324393"I recently purchased this coin in a local auction house..." tradera.com/item/344695/315265505/-silver-8-reales-1783-fran-el-cazador-limited-edition-fran-samlerhuset-http://goccf.com/t/327784"Hi, I recently received a coin collection from my grandfather, There were all kinds of coins but this specific coin. I have no idea what kind of coin this is or even what country it is from" ....... post was just this past August!! CAN'T be this clueless!http://goccf.com/t/276696"Need help finding information about this coin and it's value" "So I found this coin Yesterday laying around on a shelf in my attic..." The coin reads "GUSTAF V SVERIGES KONUNG 1910 ---- 2 Kr....."He metal detects also... http://goccf.com/t/277429"What is the worth of the coin? found during metal detecting also I scratched the coin when I found it. Does this effect the value of this mystery coin." "the coin sounded like a bottle cap on my garret when I found it:) " http://goccf.com/t/278662"So I got this coin as a gift. is it worth anything?" ......... in fact a very nice grade 1723 sixpence. This reply of his was apparently deleted, but someone quoted it:"I also received a letter of authenticity from which the coin was bought from. The coin was bought from a Local auktion house" A gift, yeah... This post was JANUARY 2017.http://goccf.com/t/283791"Weird coin I got from my Grandpa please help" Yeah, what a weird mystery coin to someone FROM Sweden:OSCAR II SVERIGES O. NORGES KONUNG ---- 1 KRONA 1875 Edited by realeswatcher
10/17/2018 4:36 pm
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Hahaha RW - you have WAYYYY too much time on your hands to have gone through, dug all of that up, and posted it in such a cohesive summary. This was of tremendous entertainment value to me, so thank you!
I didn't realize that this poster was yanking our chain until I read some of the additional threads you have linked earlier in this thread. I recall even responding to one of his posts about the repaired Riksdaler with every intent to help out... had I known I wouldn't have bothered.
At first glance I though you were being your usual charming self but I do agree with you, there is definitely something amiss here. Either he is playing games, being intentionally coy, or he suffers from severe amnesia or split personality disorder. I don't understand the reasoning but whatever.
It is rather unfortunate because he does seem to have a very nice collection and we appear to be kindred spirits. I too have a strong affinity towards Scandinavian silver so it saddens me to see someone with this much great material "leaving" this forum. He would have gotten just the same earnest responses without all of the nonsense.
@scorpu your comments are always a pleasant addition to this forum and I can wholeheartedly appreciate you standing up for folks, but surely you must see that there is a LOT of nonsense here for reasons unknown. Jgenn & RW may have been a bit direct/curt in their responses but they are exactly spot on.
@Kaikun It would be great if you stay and continue to be a part of this community and share many of your great pieces with us. If you have legitimate questions about value or sale prices or are not sure about something or if you just want to show off your pieces then do so! This is the place for all of these things. Please just do so without all of the tomfoolery and be genuine in your posts/queries.
P.S. would love to see more up-close pictures of your riksdalers! Nice set you got there.
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I looked over realeswatcher's investigation. After doing some reading, I agree with the members who claim something is amiss. My earlier statement is because I didn't realize this..now I do.
To the OP: no need to leave this forum. But please ask legitimate questions as something does appear "off" with your posts/questions. Thanks.
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Mark - aren't you kinda doing the same thing now by assuming he doesn't have access to the coins and is just using stock/borrowed photos? Have you concrete evidence that he doesn't have the coins? I mean don't get me wrong, I thought the same thing and a small part of me still believes it is possible but I'd like to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Besides, that's a lot of pictures he just posted in this thread and they are all connected and have similar backgrounds - I doubt he yanked them all from google. If these are indeed not his coins then he at least must know some one and was able to take pictures of all of these. Heck, it could be his father's collection from all we know.
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Mark - you misunderstood me. Earlier I sympathized with the member. Now, after doing a bit of research, I think something might be up.
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10/17/2018 8:08 pm
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This poster plays games - don't coddle them This is the internet. People act and take on mannerisms that are often odd to me. Did you all realize we recently had a cat on here as a member? Instead of the word coddle substitute it with the word tolerate. That sounds more like what you are trying to say. So please do not assume because I am not shredding this person, I am too dense to see the inconsistencies myself based on the historical posts. Quote:
but surely you must see that there is a LOT of nonsense here for reasons unknown. Indeed there is. Do I understand the why and the reasoning behind the stories? No. Would I prefer a straight or consistent story? Absolutely. Am I going to go all in and shred a member to pieces for odd and inconsistent postings? No. I am here for the coins and would love to see some more individual shots of this persons collection. If that is not available or doable so be it. Now specifically for RW-the chief investigator  - I appreciate the knowledge you have and share on this site and look forward to seeing (and learning from) many more of your posts as they are often entertaining and informative |
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