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Valued Member
United States
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Everything below the building is doubled--I assume it's MD because even though the letters don't appear "reduced flat shelflike", but it's not on Variety Vista. And yes there is a nasty scrape coming up from the bottom to the center of the coin. But this is the most doubling I've found on a coin yet so I thought I would share, and also ask--what can I learn from this coin? One thing I see is that the doubling doesn't go in a consistent direction. Like most of 'MONICELLO' doubles in a North-Northeast direction, but the 'LLO' goes West. What causes that during the Machine Doubling? Also why isn't 'E PLURIBUS UNUM' or anything on the building machine doubled? Doesn't the machine mint everything all at once?     |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Your coin is damaged. Note the rim on the reverse, it is showing sweeping damage upwards on the coin. The more recent nickel dies that are doubled dies are showing in the center if the building. (Not on the devices) None listed on the reverse for this year, but the 2012 is attributed http://www.varietyvista.com/04d%20J...%202012P.htmYou might check out the several different dies out and see what areas area affected? |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree on it being damaged.
Errers and Varietys.
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Valued Member
 United States
212 Posts |
Seriously yall? I acknowledged that the coin is damaged ("And yes there is a nasty scrape coming up from the bottom to the center of the coin.")
And I acknowledged that 2011 D is not on Variety Vista, so I am not asking if it's a doubled die. It's as if I didn't write anything, only posted photos.
Edited by Kawliga
11/01/2018 1:43 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8715 Posts |
E&V and coop are correct. The letters were flattened and "doubled" due to circulation wear and tear (damage, most evident on UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) and Machine Doubling. I personally wouldn't keep this particular coin as an MD learning example. It has MD especially on MONTICELLO but it's not as strong as some examples I've seen. You'll find coins with more MD in the future. Many others will have differing opinions, however. Keep it if you want. Edited by SilverDollar2017
11/01/2018 1:48 pm
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United States
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OH MY GOD....I AM NOT ASKING WHAT CAUSED THE DOUBLING. Am I the only one who can see the text I wrote above the photos? Does anyone care to answer the actual questions I asked.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Please read my above post. I edited it with more info.
Thank you.
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Valued Member
United States
212 Posts |
I mean....how could someone notice the doubling yet somehow not see the damage? Is this a joke or something?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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From my above post...does this answer your question? Quote:
I personally wouldn't keep this particular coin as an MD learning example. It has MD especially on MONTICELLO but it's not as strong as some examples I've seen. You'll find coins with more MD in the future. Many others will have differing opinions, however. Keep it if you want. |
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United States
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Nope. Can you see the questions I asked? I'm sincerely asking, because this is getting weird. To add to the pile of things I'm not asking, I'm not asking if I should keep this coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If you are asking what causes Machine Doubling - it is due to the vibration and mechanical parts in the striking process being slightly loose. It often happens that it can appear to be doubled in different directions. Coop can explain why this is better than I can. When the die vibrates or bounces around, the MD can happen in different directions. Edited by SilverDollar2017
11/01/2018 1:58 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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ok thank you I appreciate it. I thought I was losing my mind for a second there. Was about to offer a reward to anyone who could copy/paste any portion of the text of my post.
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Pillar of the Community
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I see all the MD - sometimes the machine may do a double jump causing the doubling to go in different directions on the lettering.
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New Member
United States
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Hello, I'm new to the hobby and read all of the posts regarding the first post by Kawliga, and have one question: Am I to understand that the doubling of the letters underneath the building is due to Machine Doubling and this is therefore not a DDO? Thanks for your patience - Trying to learn. |
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Quote:Am I to understand that the doubling of the letters underneath the building is due to Machine Doubling and this is therefore not a DDO? Correct. But remember MD can happen anywhere on the coin - it is not just limited to the letters under the building. Just so happens on this one that is where it was located. Edited by Mark1959
11/01/2018 5:43 pm
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Your coin is damaged.  |
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