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Coin Splash, What Is It? Real Error Or PSD, Counterfeit

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Coin splash, what is it?
Thought came to me. How can you tell if something is struck through on a coin, or it is post strike damage? If an item is struck though inside the die, you won't see a splash or wave on the fields/devices. The dies will contain the metal movement from happening. So basically what you will see on the coin is what was struck though onto the coin. Wire, thread, foreign objects, cloth, fiber, string and on and on. So lets look at some of these:

Fiber:
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Plating ribbons:
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Wire: (what is unique about these is that one end often is blunt and the other end may be tapered)
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
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Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Button:
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Note the reverse shows no evidence of PSD, it looks normal like an error should look like.
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Cloth:
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Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
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Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Foreign objects:
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
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Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Rim burr:
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Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
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Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Thread:
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Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Splash or wave:
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

On the above examples, there was not wave/splash. What do you mean wave or splash? With the coin out of the striking process, the movement of contact moves the metal to a new location. when contact happens, it has to go somewhere. So contact will move the metal like a snowplow will more snow. Changing the normal flat fields pushed in one direction or another. This is how you can tell if it happened after the strike. On Machine Doubling you see the devices flattened in some areas and other areas you see it pushed up on the devices. Just like snow from a snowplow. So lets look at some metal movement:
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
This wave or splash can be seen on disturbed normal devices.
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
We often find examples of PSD in the coins we search. But they are all spendable. Now we will look at how to identify what happened to coins at the hands of coin murderers.
Intentional damage:
Reduced size of coins:
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Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Hammered devices into the coin will make a wave away from the contact:
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Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
On these, when they are hammered from one side making an incuse mark, the opposite side is showing a raised area opposite the damage.
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Cut into coins to reduced the edges. (Why? Why not?)
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
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Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Cut with blade:
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Scratched with a ball point pen:
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Magicians coins:
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

Altered coins/ counterfeit coins:
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit
Coin-Splash,-What-Is-It?-Real-Error-Or-PSD,-Counterfeit

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Wow coop. I saved this post, going to help tremendously with future questions. Your the bomb!
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Great post Coop! Excellent source of information.
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Awesome Coop! Thanks for the post... very educational
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Nice compendium, but my fave is the struck-through button!
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You probably wonder where did I get these images so fast to create this thread. I save posted images that I can use for such posts. Also I create new stuff from images on other sites online. Sometimes some will post an image and when I see it, I come up with others ways to use that image on a new thread. So many images do I have to choose from? My image site say right now, 8,967. Getting close to 9K images. So you may wonder, How did I get all these images on this thread and loose the information while loading? I use my word processor. I create the information, spell check it and add the image information with the script and re-check it. So how long did it take me to post it. One second. I copy/pasted it here on the forum. Save a lot more time on the forum. It probably took me a couple of hours to create the word page. But posting is a snap that way.
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Great informative post, Coop! Thanks. My favorite is the V-Nickel button strike-through.
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Nice write-up, thanks!
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VERY SAVVY COOP!

Gotta love scripts ;)

I do graphic design and use them often...
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The tough thing about them if an upper one is wrong, then the other lower ones can be affected also.
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coop, fantastic information and great pictures!

I can understand the struck through wire bristles, cloth, and threads. Button? Nail? Good grief, did the mint keep a random bucket of leftover hardware supplies handy and toss a bunch of it at the press when they were bored? that's crazy stuff!
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This was a nice read, thank you
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Yes sir very interesting
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Excellent information and images. Thanks for putting it out there for the rest of us.


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