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1952-S Mintage Or Post Damage?

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This is an odd one. I have a hard time making a case for post mint or mintage damage. Sorry I'm a noob! What do you guys think?


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Looks like PMD, but at least it's a wheat!
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It actually looks like some sort of Retained Cud to my eyes.
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@SOT, it looks to me like the word IN has been damaged, but I wonder if the broader part of the field behind Abe's head and neck is a shallow lam. Could you please post an overall of the front of this coin? Thx.
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I don't see how it could break and stick post mint but who knows?
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Indents into a coin usually mean impact or scratch post mint damage.

The only two cases indent I can think of
are error by delamination from the coin,
and impression by debris between the die and the planchet.
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Ok yes thanks for the overall pic. The area around IN still looks damaged to me. I don't see much of anything from the meandering linear mark from your first pic so that is probably nothing. By the way, is this the actual color of the coin or is it your camera washing out the copper color?
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Thanks Spence. The camera is distorting the color a little.
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Thanks sel. Almost certainly PMD.. just wish I could see how :P. Like the rim mostly ripped off and shifted over the letters and stayed attached just a bit.
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It looks like part of the rim tore away and is covering the word IN. You can see where it is still attached. PSD.
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It might be damage, but the rim appears to be folded over the devices. Not really thinking it is a lamination though. Maybe the metal was moved. But you have the coin in hand. See if there is any attachment that could be a fold over on that area? Then it might be an lamination. Seems off if it is damage, that it is still there. There maybe a small anchor that I don't see?
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Mr. Coop, it's attached.
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It certainly appears to be a lamination flaw in which part of the rim separated and folded over onto the word IN. The rim is noticeably missing metal in the exact area and the upper portions of the letters can still be seen through the added layer of metal. As Spence pointed out, a lamination "fault line" can also be seen below this in the field.
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Sounds like I should save in a 2x2 anyway. Little or no premium?
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Definitely save in a 2x2. (IMHO) It's a neat find, and I think it most likely a lamination flaw. Happy hunting!

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