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Thoughts On NGC CAC Crossovers To PCGS

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I think a lot of it is arrogance on PCGS's part. I've heard similar stories of them dropping grades on NGC crossovers. I don't think they are in a position to do that right now.

Another mentioned that most NGC coins have never been submitted to CAC. That's intriguing. Maybe this whole assumption that NGC coins are less likely to bean is a total sham.
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I have a Seated Half that was in an NGC AU-58 holder with a CAC sticker. The previous owner crossed it over to PCGS (still in the slab) and it was graded a 55. CAC gave the PCGS a green bean too.
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That's exactly my concern, Chester. No way will I crack these out before sending them in. That just adds another layer of expense and hassle and headache. Learned that lesson the hard way with another coin I cracked out.
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When you submit NGC coins to PCGS, the CAC stickers adds no weight to getting the coin crossed. If the holders are scratched blocking the view of the coin, it will not cross to PCGS. Before you send to PCGS polish the plastic to remove the scratches with PlastX. I sent 6 NGC with green stickers to PCGS 4 crossed and 2 did not cross. The 2 coins that did not cross were nice coins for the grade.

I am not going to make any comments about your coin crossing because the only opinion that counts is PCGS.
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Just to be clear, I'm NOT cracking any of these out. I'm submitting them in their holders.


Understood. The comment regarded sending it back to NGC and having them re-holder it in a new AU58 holder. CAC will then sticker it at a discount (CAC used to re-sticker for $3 plus S&H).

I agree with cleaning up the current holder as much as possible if you do send it to PCGS for a crossover attempt. Looking at your coin that's already in a green beaned fattie makes me think you have a very good chance on a crossover.
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I think a lot of it is arrogance on PCGS's part. I've heard similar stories of them dropping grades on NGC crossovers.


It's not arrogance they just have different standards and have been tighter. Eye appeal means more to them too


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Another mentioned that most NGC coins have never been submitted to CAC. That's intriguing.


Most PCGS coins haven't been sent to CAC either. There's no point sending common date/grade Morgans/Saints which makes up millions of coins and most coins in general wouldn't make sense financially.

Now it's a different story if you're talking about five figure coins or expensive coins at major auctions ect.

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Too much risk and hassle imo. Just leave as is. Scratched holders don't bother me, and they can be cleaned up/polished if need be. NGC is a better technical grader anyway imo.
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How about sending your 1848 Dollar back to NGC for reholdering. A new clear slab with viewable rims would improve your odds. Then off to PCGS for the crossover. Regardless if it crosses or not send the coin back to CAC with photographic evidence of their prior approval. Good Luck. I like it as is. This coin has changed hands a couple of times last year and I do not think either dealer involved would leave money on the table by not crossing it to PCGS. But who knows.
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I'd try some Plast-X on that slab before having it reholdered or trying to cross it to PCGS.
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