1847 Seated Liberty Dollar. Is This Just Scrap Now?! - Page 2

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BH1964 Bedrock of the Community United States 10982 Posts	Posted 01/30/2019 9:41 pm Quote: .930 oz I'd expect! Yes, .930 oz (avoirdupois) is what it should weigh with the hole/wear. About 26.4 grams. The picture showing it next to a Morgan dollar demonstrates the correct size. It can't weigh .930 grams. ANA #R3154474 Report this Post to the Staff
MikeF Pillar of the Community United States 3479 Posts	Posted 01/30/2019 9:48 pm Found it. Are you sure you are it weighing it correctly? It should weigh 26.73 grams or .86 in ounces. Given the hole the weight would be lower say around 24-25 grams. I don't see any obvious signs in the date that it's a fake. Is that scale accurate? Report this Post to the Staff
ccobb Valued Member United States 485 Posts	Posted 01/31/2019 08:22 am Guys, thank you for all the kind responses. I mistakenly put (g) in the original post. The coin is 26.4 grams or .930 ounces! Report this Post to the Staff
MikeF Pillar of the Community United States 3479 Posts	Posted 01/31/2019 6:08 pm If that's how much it weighs then there is no other conclusion to draw other than it's a counterfeit. A Seated dollar without a large hole should weigh .86 in ounces and would be significantly lower than that with the hole. Report this Post to the Staff
BH1964 Bedrock of the Community United States 10982 Posts	Posted 01/31/2019 7:02 pm Quote: If that's how much it weighs then there is no other conclusion to draw other than it's a counterfeit. A Seated dollar without a large hole should weigh .86 in ounces and would be significantly lower than that with the hole. Re-read the thread. It's 0.93 ounces avoirdupois. Exactly what it should weigh. The hole would subtract very little weight. It only covers about 1% of the coin's surface area. ANA #R3154474 Report this Post to the Staff
MikeF Pillar of the Community United States 3479 Posts	Posted 01/31/2019 8:43 pm Ok, I missing something in the conversion from troy ounces to avoirdupois and it's giving me a headache. Anyone care to monkey with this doohickey be my guest. https://www.unitjuggler.com/convert...o-ounce.html Report this Post to the Staff
MikeF Pillar of the Community United States 3479 Posts	Posted 01/31/2019 8:56 pm Ok got it. .93 ounces avoirdupois to grams is 26.37 grams. https://www.unitjuggler.com/convert...tml?val=0.93 That number still sounds heavy due to the large hole. It's already going to lose weight from circulation but it's only lost .36 grams? Not to be master of the obvious but on value it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it assuming it's authentic. I see a lot of these on ebay up for action and know anther dealer who deals in holed sld's because he says he can make better margins off of them. This one does have some things going for it. I'm guessing from the limited pictures you provided it has attractive toning, though you also say it has a blue look. Better pictures would help. Edited by MikeF 01/31/2019 9:06 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Loruca Valued Member Canada 242 Posts	Posted 02/19/2019 08:49 am I know this story has been concluded for a while, but I couldn't stop myself from noting that if you all south of the border would just switch to the greatness that is metric, things would be muuuuch easier. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188213 Posts	Posted 02/19/2019 10:52 am Quote: I know this story has been concluded for a while, but I couldn't stop myself from noting that if you all south of the border would just switch to the greatness that is metric, things would be muuuuch easier. Truth. We started to make the shift in the 1970s, but then I have no idea what happened. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 02/19/2019 12:42 pm Quote: We started to make the shift in the 1970s, but then I have no idea what happened It wasn't made mandatory. Report this Post to the Staff
MikeF Pillar of the Community United States 3479 Posts	Posted 02/19/2019 12:56 pm Yeah but this is a US section. I vote for no metric in US forums. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188213 Posts	Posted 02/19/2019 5:07 pm Quote: It wasn't made mandatory. I should have guessed. Quote: Yeah but this is a US section. I vote for no metric in US forums. I get to run a 5K with my wife next month. I better not forget to take my 10 mg dose of Zyrtec that morning. When we are done I will celebrate with a 500 mL Pepsi. Oh, hey, our coins are metric, right? Well, except for the quarter. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
MikeF Pillar of the Community United States 3479 Posts	Posted 02/20/2019 02:57 am You're going down Jbuck. I found this holed Seated dollar looking for fakes today. Some of these holed coins have some of the most beautiful original surfaces. I guess that's due to dealers in the 70's thinking they weren't worthy of cleaning due to the damage. I wish they would have left all Seated dollars alone like this one. This example is if you ignore the hole and the graffiti. It matches the patina on my 1844. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1860-O-SEA...ka:rk:8:pf:0 Edited by MikeF 02/20/2019 03:00 am Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188213 Posts	Posted 02/20/2019 10:01 am Quote: You're going down Jbuck. Quote: This example is if you ignore the hole and the graffiti. Ouch that hole! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
GrapeCollects Pillar of the Community United States 8938 Posts	Posted 02/20/2019 10:25 am Quote: We started to make the shift in the 1970s, but then I have no idea what happened Ahem 'MERICA! Report this Post to the Staff
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