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1863 Indian Cent: Grade?

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 Posted 08/07/2008  06:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DarkSun to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

what grade would you give this 1863 Indian cent?
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 Posted 08/07/2008  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't tell from the pictures.... Au 55 details or MS 60 deatils cleaned if the small scratches are on the coin.


Perhaps better if they're on the holder.
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 Posted 08/07/2008  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details, unfortunately harshly cleaned
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 Posted 08/07/2008  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would give this one an AU55, though I don't think it would holder at PCGS or NGC due to cleaning. Also the hit between two of the ribbons on the Obverse may take it back to an EF45 at ANACS

(edited to change XF to EF). See, I'm still learning :)
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08/07/2008 5:50 pm
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 Posted 08/07/2008  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU+ but harshly cleaned and would always bodybag.
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 Posted 08/07/2008  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks AU/UNC details cleaned/whizzed
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 Posted 08/07/2008  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Hard to tell the AU/BU from the photo, but the cleaning is very apparent.


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 Posted 08/07/2008  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it has been whizzed. But I think a Brillo pad might have been used!
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 Posted 08/07/2008  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to be MS to me, but defintaly HARSHLY cleaned....steel wool or Brillo pad for sure, that's nasty!
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 Posted 08/07/2008  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah...a good indicator here is the darker finish near the edges of the portrait where the coin is protected from the abrasive.
I'm sure it's no fun to get bad news like this...sorry.
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Despite the comments about it being cleaned, it is a very nice piece to have in an Indian cent set. It doesn't need to be sent into a grading company for you to enjoy it. I would love to have my 63 looking that higher of a grade.

Think about it- this coin has been around for 145 years and still looks that nice!
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 Posted 08/07/2008  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is always ashame to see such a harshly cleaned coin.
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 Posted 08/08/2008  04:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DarkSun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your comments.
I think I will send it back. I paid about $60 for it. In the description the seller wrote that the coin has not been cleaned.... And the pictures have not showned the scratches....
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08/08/2008 05:35 am
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 Posted 08/08/2008  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mklpatrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the seller does not consider blasting it with crushed walnut shells cleaning?
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I was thinking only XF-45 with the harsh cleaning of the surface. I think in terms of the overall grade but the details are better.
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08/08/2008 3:23 pm
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