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Proof, Prooflike? None Of The Above? Thoughts On A 1937e German 2 Mark Coin

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Thanks for your help. What I don't get is why the observe bust doesn't have any frosting on it.. Any thoughts?


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 Posted 01/31/2019  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like it may have been made with polished dies.
Just as a guess, it could be an impaired proof.
I don't understand "Prooflike".
Proof is a method of manufacture.
So it either is or is not.

Update: I'm old school and don't grade coins and grew up with the standard G, VG, F, XF, Proof and so on. I'll debate price, but not argue grade when I buy at a show. What a grade is and what a seller thinks a coin is means nothing to me. I strictly ignore all of it and decide how much I am willing to pay for what I see. So the term Prooflike seemed odd until I looked it up among several references. The way coins are described nowadays has much more complexity. So I read and learned more about what constitutes a "Prooflike" coin.
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'Proof' is a term that is often used to describe the appearance of a coin, not just its process of manufacture. I am not going to weigh in on whether that is proper usage of the term, or not, but it is very common.

'Prooflike' refers to a high quality normal die uncirculated coin that could be mistaken for a proof specimen.

Coin shown is a nice strike but certainly not a proof.
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To me it just looks like a normal coin that has been polished.
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Great, thanks you guys!
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The Royal Canadian Mint has struck collector coins deliberately to a "prooflike" standard, that is below "proof".

I do not think that is the case here with the 2 Marks, but was struck under similar circumstances to "DMPL"** Morgan dollars.

** = Deep Mirror ProofLike - early strike coins from fresh dies of much better than average quality.
Such coins in high MS grades are 'eye candy'.
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