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Ferdinand II Kreuzer 1624 B, But What Type? (1624 Ad Austria 1 Kreutzer)

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 Posted 01/30/2019  8:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What is the issuer and type for this 1624 Kreuzer?

I had previously identified it as Austria KM# 480, but then I noticed the arms at the bottom reverse. A B is usually for the Kremnica mint. I can't find a good match under Austria, Bohemia, or Silesia in Krause or anywhere in numista.com.


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Here is a Numista listing under Bohemia for Brunn (Brno) mint.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces87686.html

Coin in photo is a 1626 from a differnt mint, but the text in the listing says there is a 1626 B with B in circle, and cites your obv lettering (FER II instead of FERDI II) as a known variant, so maybe that's it?.
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That's the best I can see, but the arms on the lower reverse are a very big variation.
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Probably the mintmaster's family arms (if it's like Polish coinage), and if the Brno mintmaster changed between 1624 and 1626, that would change this part of the coin.

Neat that you have a coin from Brno mint ... I didn't even know there was one. But not surprising since an enormous number of towns and cities in that part of the world minted coins in the 16th and 17th centuries.
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It seems to be Austria KM#479, a one-year type.
Snippet from 2008 Krause SCWC.
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Kushanshah, thank you very much.

It is in my 6th edition (copyright 2014) as well, but the image is at the bottom of a column and the number and information is at the top of the next column.
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And even then, yours is a variant.

Catalog obv legend: FERII DG RIS (B) AGHB ?
Your obv legend: FERII DG RI (B) SAGHBR

(By the way, I now see my first post said "1626 B with B in circle" when I meant to say "1624 B with B in circle". Sorry for any confusion).



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