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1888 Indian Variety S2?

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 Posted 09/02/2008  9:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cpfull to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I just got my Indian cent attribution guide and was looking at a few Indians, I think this may be a S2. I can't be sure from the obverse, but it does have the begining of the reverse die crack from die stage B. I was hoping someone could help me out.
first the 18

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here is the 2nd 8

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the last 8 and a close up of the upper loop

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and last the die crack on the reverse, it's hard to see, but it is there.

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 Posted 09/02/2008  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
Since your coin is a bit corroded and the markers for this variety are pretty slight, it could be argued the "noise" level is almost the same magnitude as "signal"--if that makes sense. That said, I almost think I see an S2 as well--I only say that because I've studied this one in detail. As a bit of confirmation, you might take a shot of the necklace area--there should be a MPD emerging from the last bead. I also want to compare the position of the date to the bust--another diagnostic. For reference, here's an microphotograph of this variety:

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Kurt
You always have the best pictures
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I was hoping you would respond Kurt,and yes your statement did make sense (I take x-rays, we use the same terminology for the main beam and scatter.) Here is a pic of the full date, I think it looks like the same position as yours. I can see something where the one in the neck should be in hand, where I can tilt it, but can't get a pic through the scope. I am fairly certain this is a dug coin, or at least soaked in something, but its fun to find varieties.

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Thanks...I think the date is the same position too. I'm seeing enough "datapoints" to confirm it for me, and I believe I see something emerging from the necklace too. I think the die gouge (or "7" perhaps) in the upper loop of the 8 clinched it for me.

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Discovery is everything to me...regardless of value or whether it slabs. Great find!
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 Posted 09/03/2008  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What kind of premium, if any does this coin carry above the common 1888?
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