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Canadian 1964 1 Cent - Dot?

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 Posted 07/07/2019  9:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dir to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Tl;dr. Is this a 1964 1 cent "dot", if so what condition is it and what's it's estimated worth and demand?

I'm in my late 50s and recently retrieved my coin collection from the 1970s from when I was a teenager. So of course it's just a bunch of coins I found in spare change, mostly. It's been in a safety deposit box since about 1980 with my parents. I've been living abroad since then, and now back in Canada.
I have been going through them with the firm knowledge that almost all of them will be worthless. However, I was happily surprised to find that I amassed a couple of dozen pennies and nickels that I bought direct from the local town coin shops (Bill Foote's Coin and Stamp in Langley BC. and the Vancouver coin shop that I think was on/near Seymour St.)
So I have these "brilliant uncirculated" ("B.U.") nickels and pennies in 2x2 cardboard holders and, using an online guide at coinsandcanada.com as a guide, have been going through each "B.U." coin to check for worth.

Them I came across this. A boring 1964 1 cent sold to me in about 1979 as "B.U.", for the fee of 10 cents. But when I looked at it more closely against any of the known variations, I found a small dot exactly in the right location. According to http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...nt-1953-1964 I was reading, a 1964 "dot" is pretty valuable. However, the few photos I found online of this variation seem to show a larger dot than mine.
I've removed the coin from its holder and taken photos of it by rotating it in position so that the sun illuminates it from multiple sides. I've included photos of the other side to help get an idea of its condition. I'm not naive in believing that the "B.U." grading I paid for back in the 70's means anything nowadays.
I'm old enough to not get too excited about this "find" so I'll await the group consensus before popping corks.
Feedback on confirmation, grading, likely interest etc would be much appreciated.
And yes, this is my first post here. But I was collecting coins in the mid 70s so hopefully I get a tiny bit of credit for that!

Canadian-1964-1-Cent---Dot?
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Canadian-1964-1-Cent---Dot?
Canadian-1964-1-Cent---Dot?
Canadian-1964-1-Cent---Dot?
Canadian-1964-1-Cent---Dot?
Canadian-1964-1-Cent---Dot?
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 Posted 07/08/2019  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't pop open the bubbly yet.
It's a die chip.
Value is much closer to the 10cents you paid than the preposterous price on the other site.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 07/08/2019  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not an expert, but it looks like similar coins are available on ebay for $80-$400, but the only that have sold were around $25. Hang onto it, see what some of the others have to say. Neat find either way.

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Beautiful coin you have there.
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..to CCF

A beautiful 1964 small cent you have but, all the 'dot' is, is a die chip.
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Must agree.



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Value is much closer to the 10cents you paid than the preposterous price on the other site.

I sold this minor error (Zoell #B88q) on a MS-64/MS-65 grade coin for over $175 via auctions on ebay in 2013. Lucky? Maybe...

It's my coin that is shown as an example on the CoinsandCanada.com website:

Canadian-1964-1-Cent---Dot?
Canadian-1964-1-Cent---Dot?
I'm sorry if my English isn't perfect... I'm learning a little more every day.
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Great feedback. Thanks everyone. It sounds like this is something that I'd enjoy having graded and sealed in one of those hard cases, just to have it professionally mounted. I know that the cost could easily reach the value of the coin but I don't care about that. I'm not looking to valuate my 42 year old collection. I'd rather identify the few choice specimens and perhaps display them as almost a piece of art in my home (properly encased and protected).

Back in the late 70s I diligently searched for and amassed a complete roll (40) of 1970 quarters but sold them to a dealer in Vancouver for $125 I think. Back then, 1970 coins were hugely collectible but it appears that this is no longer the case as there's now very little value difference between 1970 and similar years. I wonder what other coins I had back then. I recall plucking a large bust 1973 quarter out of my change and selling it soon after.

Aside from the 1964 penny I seem to have procured a number of other "B.U." and varieties of pennies and nickels from the 40s 50s and 60s. I'll list them below but I'm not sure if I should attach photos of any of them in this forum somewhere so I'll leave it to the regulars for guidance or requests.

1951 5c commemorative BU
1958 1 dollar BU (I have two)
1957 5c bug tail UNC
1962, 1963 1964 1965 1972 5c BU
1942 1943 1944 1945 1954 1957 5c BU
1972 5c proof
1953 shoulder strap and 1953 no shoulder strap 5c BU
1965 1c BU SBP5 (not sure what this means but guessing "small bust pointy 5"
1954 50c UNC
1970 25c proof


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Hi Dir, it means small beads pointed 5, there's also the large bead 1965 5c you should look out for, it commands quite the premium.
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Oh sorry for the 1965 penny you're looking for the pointed 5 Large beads, that's the one that everyone seems to want and is the scarcest variety. There are 4 types of pairings for that year. Beautiful find by the way I've been looking for one of those while coin roll hunting.
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