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I am sure viewers are getting pretty sick of the Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth. I have a couple, just waiting my turn  Quote:
but realistically how many of us have 15th century dated coins? It's time to broaden your horizons  |
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Quote:I have a couple, just waiting my turn  Quote:
It's time to broaden your horizons Life beyond the Eisenhower dollars...  |
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but realistically how many of us have 15th century dated coins? I actually do have a dated coin from the 15th century! But the last digit is off flan  (Shirvanshah tanka, 892-4 AH = 1487-9 AD; Third Edition post, Fifth Edition post, don't recall if I've posted it in the Fourth.) I've bought another Shirvanshah tanka (different type) a few weeks ago that should hopefully have a full date (have yet to post it for ID), and passed on yet another two days ago because I couldn't see the date on it and the price was $15; might end up getting it anyway. EDIT: I estimated in 2017 ( updated 2018) that past 1491 we're missing 1487 (just @pepactonius), 1486 (just @Gallienus), 1480, 1473 (just @pepactonius), 1467, 1464, 1461, 1460 (where we're currently stuck), the entire 1457-50 range, 1445, 1435, and after 1432 it's mostly a miss. I think a few 1450s dates had since been covered? (There might be a few more dates in that range that only @pepactonius had, but almost all of the pre-1470 stuff is @Spence and @EddieDiz.) Edited by january1may
03/11/2021 5:52 pm
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Here is a battered Shilling from Livonia (Riga) dated 1605 AD:   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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1604 Poland 1 groschen, Krakow   |
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My next coin is for 1600.
For the 16th c I have:
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1585
1582
1580
1566
1551
1534
Partial or no date:
A Tirol kreuzer (1508 most likely)
A penny of Henry VIII (1530-1544, Tunstall/Durham mint)
A Prague Groschen (15xx)
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France 1603, double tournois, Henry IV, Paris (A).  Quote:
I am sure viewers are getting pretty sick of the Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth. Not yet  - keep 'em coming!  Quote:
but realistically how many of us have 15th century dated coins? None actually dated here, but I have a couple that from minting documentation can be attributed to specific years. But with those years being 1436 and 1413, the chance is slim I will be able to show them here. |
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Another lovely copper! On dates, I've been busy since the last edition, and now have a continuous run back to 1498, but am pretty weak in the 1480s. 1603 Poland trojak (3 groschen).   |
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1603 1 Shilling- James I first coinage.   |
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but am pretty weak in the 1480s Better get working on that  |
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Here is a 1/24 Thaler from the German Bishopric of Hildesheim dated 1603 AD:   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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France/Bearn 1602, 1/4 ecu, Henry IV, Pau mint.  Although both France and Navarre had Henry IV of France as king since 1589, they remained separate kingdoms until 1620. Navarre, where Henry was Henry III of Navarre, minted its own coins. So did the Navarrese province of Bearn (where Henry was Lord Henry II of Bearn). However, since long Navarre (and Bearn) had harmonized their monetary system with that of France, and the coins of both countries were valid in the other. By the end of the 16th century, their basic designs were the same, but with different arms and inscriptions. On the Bearn coins Henry's lordship is signified by the letters DB - Dominus Bearnie - in ligature following the regal titles (FRANCiae ET NAvarrae REX). The reverse shows the combined arms of France, Navarre, and Bearn, with the two charming cows being that of Bearn. The inscription is the motto of the Bearnese Lords: GRATIA DEI SUM id QuoD SUM (By the grace of God I am who I am). Pau was one of few French/Navarrese mints that employed mechanical coining for silver coins at this time. Almost all mints still hammered those. The general high minting quality and regularity of Pau coins stick out compared to contemporary ecus from other mints. Another noteworthy thing about this coin is that it has a denomination: The II-II across the reverse denotes the 1/4th of an ecu. This is uncommon for pre-revolutionary French silver, since the value for gold and silver coins could change at any time, by royal decree. During the period 1578-1602, however, a fixed value system was in place, with an ecu (then a gold coin) valued at 60 sols tournois. The 1/4 and 1/8 ecu coins (of silver, marked II-II respectively V-III) had fixed values of 15 and 7½ sols tournois. Then there was also a series of franc silver coins (1, ½ and 1/4 franc), with 1 franc = 1/3 ecu (= 20 sols = 1 livre tournois). The franc coins also had a fixed value, but were not marked with denomination ...  |
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The general high minting quality and regularity of Pau coins stick out compared to contemporary ecus from other mints. Agreed--this one is very well executed. Here is a 3 Pfennig from the German Free City of Muenster dated 1602 AD. As with @era's coin, the Roman numerals on the rev connotate the denomination.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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@dearborn, nice coin for 1603! Interesting comments on the denomination on French coins. Since I've commented on the large number of Polish denominations at this time, only the two largest (thaler and 1/4 thaler) and the smallest (denar) do not give the denomination in the legends (of which the dena anyhow has none). 1602 Poland trojak (3 groschen) ... That gives us a IIII and two III for today   Edited by tdziemia
03/14/2021 5:51 pm
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1601 Poland trojak (3 groschen). 16th century here we come!!    |
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