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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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...my first Lorraine coin!


And it's a beautiful one!
The Antoine testons are far pricier than the later ones (which is why my 1537 is in far lower grade than yours).

I should upgrade.
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1522 Lithuanian halfgroat
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Here is my last non-Lithuanian coin for several days: a nice burly (26 mm, 3.5 g) Batzen from the German Bishopric of Augsburg dated 1522 AD.

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Meanwhile, here's my last Lithuanian coin for this thread...

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My next possible entries are 1521, 1517, and 1511; none of those coins are Lithuanian, nor are any of my pre-1500 dated coins.
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Well then @j1m, we are like two ships passing in the night on this thread.
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...a nice burly (26 mm, 3.5 g) Batzen from the German Bishopric of Augsburg dated 1522 AD


Very nice! I can match the size with this 1521 batzen from nearby Ottingen, but won't have anything as large again until 1504.
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Very nice! I can match the size with this 1521 batzen from nearby Ottingen
Wow, that's neat!
(Also kinda funky how all the Ns are mirror images.)


...I wonder how many of the coins in this thread had been posted back in the First Edition. This one was. (Also in the Second, Third, and Fifth.)

I also wonder if any coins had been posted in every edition so far... this one, alas, missed the Fourth. (I forgot why.)

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Archbishopric of Salzburg, Matthäus Lang von Wellenburg (1519-40), pfennig, 1521.
Salzburg arms left, personal arms of Matthäus right (some kind of flower), M for Matthäus below.
Numista 73133 (type), same type as Saurma 901/384 (different date).
Uniface, so no photo of the other side (sorry).

[EDIT: some formatting clarifications.]
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Cool coin and interesting observation on repeat appearances on How Far Back.

I only joined in How Far Back as we entered the 16th c. in the 4th edition. So a few of mine have been in 4, 5 and 6.

And yeah, those Ns. Your comment made me curious, so I took a look through acsearch, and that backward N was standard for this type until 1521. Afterward (I could find 1522-1524) the Ns are "normal."
Not sure if that signalled a change in engraver or mintmaster .
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And it begins. Here is the first of several Half Groschens that I'm going to be posting. This one is minted in Vilnius and dated 1521 AD:

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1520 Silesia, City of Schweidnitz (Swidnica) halfgroat.
If I recall a post on an earlier edition of How Far Back, these coins were designed to imitate the Polish halfgroat minted 1507-1511 (which we will see soon enough), and to circulate in Poland, but are of lower quality silver. So we have Louis II of Hungary undermining the currency of his uncle, Sigismund I of Poland.
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we have Louis II of Hungary undermining the currency of his uncle, Sigismund I of Poland.


Them's fightin' words @tdz.

Here's an output of Sigi I: a Half Groschen of Lithuania (Vilnius mint) dated 1520 AD:

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1519 Lithuania halfgroat
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Here is a brother to your coin today @tdz. Mine is attributed as Kopicki 3151, Ivan. 1S587-20, and Huletski 61F (with generous assistance from our @giedrius).

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1518 Lithuania half groat. The legends are changing to a more gothic font
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