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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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I'm in full lurk mode and excited to post a coin from 1383 soon...
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I'm in full lurk mode...
I live in Lurk Mode once we leave the 19th century.

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...and excited to post a coin from 1383 soon
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1385 G-M Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria;Huszar 569,Unger 443d,Pohl 114-4.


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1385 G-M Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria;Huszar 569,Unger 443d,Pohl 114-4.
Very nice!
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Excellent coins @ttkoo! The date on that last Juchid coin seems to say 7888 - though of course there's nothing but 788 that it could be given Toqtamysh's reign.
I'm sure that between you and @bd251 you'll have the entire 15th century covered with AH dated coins when the 8th edition rolls up to there (in 2026), and would be making good progress through the 14th as well

Excellent denar from @EddieDiz as well!
Looking forward to more 1380s coins, especially the (interestingly dated) example from Collects82.


My next entry is 776 AH (1374 AD), or at least I think it is - there's a bunch of variant manglings of the date of that seemingly single-year type, and my coin's specific version isn't attested on Zeno, but is almost surely still the same underlying date.
I do wonder who attributed this type to 776 specifically, though...
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I look forward to seeing it presented here and further discussed.
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Excellent coins @ttkoo! The date on that last Juchid coin seems to say 7888

Thanks @january1may. Yes the abundance of "8's" had me wondering for a while but the Zeno reference shows the same characteristics and that settled my mind.
I'm still hoping to eventually see @tdziemia's 1373 in this edition, but time will tell. And I'm also looking forward to seeing your 776!
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For 1384 I have this undated gros of the Duchy of Brabant, W.414, N#98152:

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How far back CAN we go before the 7th catches up?

That's two great coins #tdziemia

My next offering tomorrow may raise some debate, but that's a good thing.
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For 1384 I have this undated gros of the Duchy of Brabant, W.414, N#98152:
Fantastic!

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My next offering tomorrow may raise some debate, but that's a good thing.
I will have to catch up with it on Monday.
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Sorry tdziemia and apologies EddieDiz, I thought the 1385 and 84 were both tdziemia's.

Eddie... your 85 is pretty special too.
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Fresh off the auction block, I won this coin yesterday, so not in hand yet. Archbishopric of Cologne, undated weisspfennig struck in 1383.
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That is a great acquisition @tdziemia!
and still we make progress

My offering is a very dilapidated 1383 denier - Mary I Hungary
My concerns are the light weight, the shape of the cross ends... is it contemporary conterfeit?



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Superb pick-up @tdz. And @ttk, here is another example of your Denar, just with a bit more remaining detail:

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My concerns are the light weight, the shape of the cross ends... is it contemporary conterfeit?


Based on spence's coin, it looks like yours is OK. The devices all look the same, and we can;t see much of your lettering.
Maybe whatever adverse conditions it saw reduced the weight?
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