How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

Ah yes, I should have posted dimensional info on my Denar: 14 mm in diameter and 0.7 g, so a bit larger and twice as heavy.

It would be interesting to get an elemental analysis (e.g. XRF) of yours @ttk--you don't happen to live near a university do you?

Yes, I am beginning to think so. Judging by those examples shown, mine was clearly at the bottom of the barrel, however, I recall I paid around $3 Australian for it as an unidentified "crusader" coin, so I think I did ok.
No Spence, I don't really have access to a university, but one day I might take it into the big city and see a coin dealer I frequent occasionally, who does have one (I think).
Anyhoo, consensus seems to favour genuine, which is a bonus, thanks all for your comments.

Excellent coin @Spence!

I believe @Collects82 has the same type - should we wait until they show up?

Wow! Nice!
The center struck up really nicely ... maybe that means the planchet was a bit thicker in the center than the edges?

For 1382, I have this half gros for the Duchy of Brabant, W. 406, N#303339. DeWitte (1894) speculated that this type was from an ordinance of June, 1381, but apparently more recent scholarship has attributed it to the ordinance of January 1382, as this is how Elsen attributes the coin. Since a new ordinance for silver coins was issued Jan. 1, 1383, this type is dated to 1382.




Obverse: + MONETA BRABA'
Rev (inner): IO DVC' LOT BRAB (Joan, Duchess of Lother, Brabant)
Rev (outer): + WENCESL DEI GRA LVCEMB BRAB DVX(Wenceslas, by God's grace Duke of Luxemboug, Brabant)

I think I am now out till the 1370s.

Fantastic examples posted over the weekend!

I hope Collects82 will show. Someone poke him with a stick!

I sent an email...

I say we soldier on and see how deep we get!

If and when he sees this, I will allow his example to be posted no matter how far we have gone.

Excellent!

This happened very often with the Golden Horde. The die cutters got 7 and 8 the wrong way up, presumably because in Arabic they look like up and down chevrons, which is confusing when you're working on a mirror image. I have a coin dated 778 (vv^) which was actually inverted 887 (^^v) which itself was a mirror of 788 (v^^ - pity this website can't cope with other scripts!) i.e. from the time of Tokhtamysh (which is known as it says Tokhtamysh on the coin).

Another possible reason is that in Arabic, number order is not the same as in English. They read right to left, but write numbers in the opposite order to English (i.e. smallest first). This normally results in the date looking as it would in English. But the order can vary when written as numerals, as words or when spoken (or when spoken in different dialects) - like in English you might say 27 June or June 27. Often, they use a mixture of words and numerals, which adds to this complexity. I have a coin dated AH771 that is written seventy-one 7 (i.e. 71 in words and 700 in numerals), which is how they would say it. So 717 is 771 when written in this way.

Given the Golden Horde's propensity to scatter the numerals around the coin and not always write them neatly at the bottom in a strict order, the dates come out in many ways.

On this one, the year 782 is mirrored to 287 (although you can only see 28-).

Tulyak Dang, 1380-1381 (AH782)

Ordu? Silver, 15mm, 1.52g. Sultan the Just Bolaq Khan, May his reign to be long. Kalima, 287 (mirrored year) (Sagdeeva 357). Tulyak may be the same person as Muhammad Bolaq.