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German Notgeld Collector Of 46 Years, From Uk.

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 Posted 04/20/2021  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi @Jay1234 - your note doesn't appear to be listed in the Grab/Mehl catalogues as you rightly state.......but there is a note about it in the book being a 'grossgeld' type from 1918. It is only serienscheine if it has a date on it, as it would have been 'reused' after the original 1918 issues......with the additional 1920 date stamp. Does that clarify the situation for you?
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 Posted 04/20/2021  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So your note is listed in the 'grossgeld' catalogue!
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 Posted 04/20/2021  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. It didn't occur to me to look in the grossgeld catalog since the almost identical note was in the serienschiene. Thanks! I have a couple more notes that could use your insight. I'll post soon!
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 Posted 04/20/2021  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No probs. I'll answer when I can.....
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 Posted 04/20/2021  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was wondering what you could tell me about these 2 pieces. Both from Bremen they appear to be advertising pieces. I assume issued by a company/store as opposed to a municipality?

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 Posted 04/28/2021  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder why the good people of Pucking decided to overprint their (apparently) serienscheine with what looks like different serienscheine values...

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Coinect mentions that those types were apparently also overprinted with letters of the alphabet (?!), but does not appear to mention those particular overprints.
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 Posted 04/29/2021  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Jay1234 - yes these are verkehrsausgaben notgeld pieces, advertising different companies and businesses. They exist in several similar but different formats. Your brown coloured piece, for example, was issued by 'Heinrich Wulfhoop who owned a business selling household items ('haushaltsartikel'). The name of the issuer is down the lefthand side and I have seen about 10 different names on this type. Your blue coloured note is from a set of 3 ( 5 + 10 + 25pf). Unfortunately, both your pieces are in rather bad condition, but they are still probably worth around 50-75 euros each.
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 Posted 04/29/2021  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@january1may - the overprinted notes from Pucking (Austria) are very interesting for collectors. They were printed with normal face values but then with overprints so more pieces could be collected (and sold by the issuing authorities to make even more money). there is a 'normal' set and then ones with the different face value overprints and also, as you mention, pieces with overprinted letters ranging from 'A' through to the letter 'R'. Lots and lots of different pieces for the collectors!
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 Posted 05/01/2021  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm. Do you have a good translation or definition of Verkehrsausgaben? Google translate says traffic expenses...
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 Posted 05/01/2021  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are notes actually issued to go into circulation
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 Posted 05/01/2021  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, and that makes a lot more sense. So if I understand correctly the above Verkehrsausgaben notes were privately issued notes intended for circulation.
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 Posted 05/01/2021  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes,.......rather than just pieces predominantly issued with the collector in mind.
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 Posted 05/01/2021  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, another question along these lines. Was it just serienscheine that was issued for collectors? Was grossgeld, inflationary and other types of notgeld issued for circulation?
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