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If your interested in collecting notgeld, I would recommend starting with page one of this thread.
I just got started on the Railroad Notgeld of 1923, another interesting subject.
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01/21/2023 2:17 pm
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Here's a radar # I recently got...  |
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Serial numbers are almost a separate topic in themselves. They are so varied but these things like 'radar' and 'ladder' numbers are interesting for lots of collectors. Nice one! Yes, that's a good article. I bought this book that I stumbled across a few years ago....... (ISBN : 3-9806203-2-8). Maybe you can find one 'out there'?  |
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Thanks, I'll look for it.
Might be a good topic for you to do a book...
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This book covers much more than I could ever know of these specific issues. There are lots of specific areas that I never really got 'in to'.
I'm having fun with my website articles and books. It keeps me very busy, as you can probably guess.
I'll try and keep an eye on this post and add a few comments and pictures of interesting pieces.......as and when.
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The 1st place that issued notgeld of the era we are chatting about (1914 -1923/4), was the brewery ('Brauhaus') in Bremen. I will try and upload a picture.....but in the meantime, what does anyone think it will look like?  (I mean this in a good way)...... |
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Don't know what the first ones looked like, but I googled and saw some triangle shaped ones. Here's the latest Reichsbahn I got. P.S1022.2.Bo38 1923 20,000,000,000 Mark   |
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Nice. Always a real pleasure when you get new pieces for your collection.  The early pieces are not aesthetically pleasing. They don't have nice designs or graphics, lots of colours or interesting little folktales and slogans or poems. They are 'drab' and were purely made for necessity/emergency......('not') due to the shortage of loose change. I'll upload the picture tomorrow. So, expect a plain looking receipt for a certain amount / face value, probably with a date of expiry / valid until date......and some sort of stamp from the issuer and possibly a signature or two..... You can pretty much tell what period a piece of notgeld is from by the way it looks. Not sure ifvthat is true of world banknotes? I guess you can tell a modern issue by it being a polymer note with lots of anti-forgery technology. Edited by notgeldman
01/27/2023 7:06 pm
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You can pretty much tell what period a piece of notgeld is from by the way it looks. Not sure if that is true of world banknotes? ...to an extent? I can usually make a good guess, but different areas often went by different paces. I know I've often noticed that Brazilian banknotes tend to look like they're decades older than they really are, so there must be something in there, flimsy as it is. The interesting thing with notgeld is how compressed it all was; a huge progression of styles and it all fit into a decade, 1914-1924. (I wonder what the last notgeld issue was - were there any actually in 1924? AFAIK the introduction of the Rentenmark basically killed the notgeld production, but I do recall hearing of a few remnant types even after that point.) |
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It's all very interesting. You have now posed a question that I will have to try and research - the last notgeld issued! I'll probably start with the catalogue of the BILLIONEN (1,000,000,000,000) mark pieces as the Rentenmark you mention was of course needed to help end the hyper-inflation......and hopefully to bring back some sense of normality to the moneytary system. Here is the earliest 1914 piece.  Edited by notgeldman
01/28/2023 06:19 am
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There are quite a few notgeld issues that have validity dates(and stamp marks) ending in 1924.(see Cleve note below) I have also quickly flicked through my scans here and found a 'Billionenscheine' piece from Kaiserswerth that was issued on 1 Dezember 1923.....which is pretty 'late'. There should be later ones. I'll quickly look through the wertbestaendige pictures I have here to see if anything else comes to light.   |
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There are quite a few notgeld issues that have validity dates(and stamp marks) ending in 1924 I think I've seen a note once that overshot with its validity period and had it end in 1925... I might be misremembering it though. (It was issued before 1923, I think, they just put a really long validity period.) ...Oh, here's one like that on Numista. It's not the type I saw, but, as I said, I'm not even sure I remembered it correctly. I wonder if there's any issues with even later claimed validity... Numista doesn't know of any, but their search functionality for that kind of thing is deeply lacking. |
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That's a really good spot  Serienscheine pieces like this usually had quite a short period of validity.....so the Muennerstadt piece in the link, is I would say, unusual. In some cases the 'valid until' date had already passed when the note was issued. Others that were issued for certain events were only valid for a day or so. Edited by notgeldman
01/28/2023 6:53 pm
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